short cross court hits the most of the time ----> unsporty?

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Postby DennieFR1908 » Fri, 25 May 2012 17:28

C4iLL wrote:Before the update, I don't remember control shots have the effect they have today, but I'm not 100% sure.


They probably didn't, but level of play of then is also not comparable to now. A lot of people know exactly how the game works now.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Fri, 25 May 2012 17:28

Tamthewasp wrote:I played his Welch. Same old story. Boring. I hear he uses the Slavina setup but I can assume it will be the same gameplan.


Hmm okay we'll see how it goes then
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Postby Biscaia_ » Fri, 25 May 2012 17:53

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Postby Tamthewasp » Fri, 25 May 2012 17:56

Biscaia_ wrote:It is so hard not to be labelled, isn't it...? --'


:D :D :D
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Postby JohnCurveo » Fri, 25 May 2012 18:18

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Postby JohnCurveo » Fri, 25 May 2012 18:53

DennieFR1908 wrote:
JohnCurveo wrote:Marco, if there is doubles in olimpic games itst, we have to play it!

Well, i dont think short crosses are boring, i think its a part of the game, and its impossible to determine if someone uses it a lot or not.

First, it was Welch or extreme power players, now is short crosses. What's next.
@Dennie "I felt that im better player". Thats the same that some "top" player of itst said to me at the end of a match "if u dont use this i beat u in 2 sets". So beautiful words, it shows that he doesn't care about fun or realism, he cares about winning. My brother played some matches of itst too, but he lost to this guy with gallo extreme. U know what he said? GG "youre good".

I dont know u Dennie, but i expect u dont have the same hypocrite actitude. I enjoy all my mathces of itst, i dont kill my opponents 6060, because its not funny, just look at my results. Sometimes i complicate matches to make it more real. And ive been acused of destroying itst.[/list]


Maybe I should say "I know I'm the better player". It's not even cocky to say it's a fact. All he does is short crossing. And no I'm not hyporcrite I play the game for fun, realism and I'm always respectfull to my opponents. Altough that doesn't mean I make a match harder when I'm much better. If he is not very good 6-0 6-0 will be the result I'm not going to sponser him games. No fun for me.

And "first it was welch, now short crosses" is not true. The problem with Welch was already the short crosses, altough it where also about other corners, they where just to easy to make so all short cross cheesers took him to execute it even easier. Still a good thing he is banned.


u delete "extreme power players" about what i said :roll:
I dont care really about that, i just like polemics.

I played some guys like tam, marco, and i try to have fun always. If we meet online we can play great practice matches, im sure! I need some training with my new rules Babb!
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Postby Fifa Tee » Fri, 25 May 2012 19:04

DennieFR1908 wrote:
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DennieFR1908 wrote:there should be a gentleman agreement among the top players to keep it realistic like it was before with likos, fabada zooloo etc, sadly this is now gone.


Welch, Babb, not playing to win though ;)


Dunnow why you have to offend me anyway, you seem like a very annoying guy man. Yes I play to win, ofcourse to win, but also for fun. I wont play every rally short cross it destroys that fun you see? There are people, not even saying it's you, and people know who I mean, who play every ball short cross, it's disguisting I see those people as no lifers otherwise you can't do this. It's just a game you know and it's sad if you are not even playing a game for fun but for this kind of sh*t it sais alot about the personality of those people. And hey if you think I'm as low as these guys and also do anything to win no prob I couldn't care less.;) talk away


Obviously you couldnt understand what i meant... you said Likos Fabada played to keep it realistic, yet they used welch and babb, the 2 setups you call cheesy and unrealistic... everything else in your post is irrelevant as you obviously didnt understand my first post.
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Postby Moralspain » Fri, 25 May 2012 19:05

a bit off-topic, John ,why that avatar?, i mean you being from Switzerland (at least that says your profile) know about this situation in my country?, just curious.
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Postby JohnCurveo » Fri, 25 May 2012 19:31

Moralspain wrote:a bit off-topic, John ,why that avatar?, i mean you being from Switzerland (at least that says your profile) know about this situation in my country?, just curious.


I live in Barcelona. Im catalan. But i live 3-4 mnths every year near Laussane.

I put switzerland because is like my second country (2 nationalities), my father is from and lives there, and i like swiss flag.

No se si estan prohibits els missatges polítics aquí, espero que no!
No se si estan prohibidos los mensajes políticos aquí, espero que no!
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Postby Moralspain » Fri, 25 May 2012 19:38

Ok, got it

Perfecte, no passa res, total no crec que ningú es senti ofès per una imatge, el que no pots fer és escriure missatges polítics, no per res però no és aquesta la finalitat d'aquest fòrum, ok?
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Postby Tamthewasp » Fri, 25 May 2012 19:41

Muey bueno por favor :D
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Fri, 25 May 2012 19:51

Fifa Tee wrote:
DennieFR1908 wrote:
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DennieFR1908 wrote:there should be a gentleman agreement among the top players to keep it realistic like it was before with likos, fabada zooloo etc, sadly this is now gone.


Welch, Babb, not playing to win though ;)


Dunnow why you have to offend me anyway, you seem like a very annoying guy man. Yes I play to win, ofcourse to win, but also for fun. I wont play every rally short cross it destroys that fun you see? There are people, not even saying it's you, and people know who I mean, who play every ball short cross, it's disguisting I see those people as no lifers otherwise you can't do this. It's just a game you know and it's sad if you are not even playing a game for fun but for this kind of sh*t it sais alot about the personality of those people. And hey if you think I'm as low as these guys and also do anything to win no prob I couldn't care less.;) talk away


Obviously you couldnt understand what i meant... you said Likos Fabada played to keep it realistic, yet they used welch and babb, the 2 setups you call cheesy and unrealistic... everything else in your post is irrelevant as you obviously didnt understand my first post.


Yes, sorry than. Misunderstood you. But I don't think babb is unrealistic only with 98/98 it's just to much. As a 0-15-5 it's no problem for me. And I must say Likos back in the days didn't play as a Welch player of today it was not all about the short crosses he always kept the matches fun and realistic. At the time I played likos I never had a problem with Welch. Just say how I experienced it.
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Postby Sh0Case » Sat, 26 May 2012 02:12

C4iLL wrote:Before the update, I don't remember control shots have the effect they have today, but I'm not 100% sure.

:lol: So why did you spend the last few months proclaiming I use the old patch?
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Re: short cross court hits the most of the time ----> unsporty?

Postby advocateof04 » Sat, 26 May 2012 16:04

Marco_Theo_81 wrote:hi everyone

Just wanted to ask, if it's a cheesy tactic to play the whole time short cross hits with crazy angles.

In my opinion it is not like real tennis. Ok, it's just a game, but really frustrating. If someone master this kind of hits, then the whole fun playing this tennis game vanish.

Saw the result from a very good player here on ITST, quitting after just 3 games. Why? Because of the reason I wrote above. Short crosses en masse!

What do our ITST members think?

Sorry, if maybe this argument was already discussed in the past.
I searched a little bit without results in the forum.

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I agree 100% with Marco the "control shot freaks" are overwhelming and take the fun out of the game even if it is not cheesy. These shots are great to use once and a while, but if the majority of winners are these laser shots it really takes the fun out of the game and goes against what ITST stands for in terms of realism.

Sure it is not against rules, but back in the earlier days of itst the players used to make it a priority to promote realness; now players are making it a priority to win and compete with the top players at the expense of making game play really arcade-like and unrealistic.

It takes a lot for me to complete my matches with a lot of the top players because their game style is so bizarre...waste of time often and not enjoyable
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Postby C4iLL » Sat, 26 May 2012 20:08

Sh0Case wrote:
C4iLL wrote:Before the update, I don't remember control shots have the effect they have today, but I'm not 100% sure.

:lol: So why did you spend the last few months proclaiming I use the old patch?


Because there were several different patches... TS4 history =

1) Without any patch
2) With the first patch, released 9 may
3) With the second patch released 6 june
4) With the current patch. released 17 september

The best version was the one released the 6 june.
At that time a lot of players played the game (more than 100 players @Montreal xbox for instance) the short angles were realistic and not huge as today. The problem was that some people complain because they had difficulties to finish points and SV like me were hard to beat.
But this was untrue as a guy like LokiSharpShooter succeed to find amazing angles that made me loose.

After the september update, a lot of players stopped playing, because of these overpowered cross shots, because of the abusing control shots...

When someone uses the glitch, I think he's playing with the original version of the game. A version that was completely arcade (huge angles, really fast running, deep shots near the baseline, no stamina counted etc).
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