Net Sh@ggers...!

[emate007]

Like I said if ITST wants to make "realism" part of the rules then it has to ban s/v because it doesn't exist in the real world.

This is the most audacious statement I've heard on here in a while!

1- SV was the most important/popular style of tennis for a LONG time. Less than 10 years ago, Sampras won the USO. He was pretty good. Just look at the pro characters in the game. They chose 'legends' as well as current stars, and Pete, Rafter, and Becker were all "net shaggers" (wtf? ).

2- You're totally misinterpreting the realism aspect of ITST. The goal is not to create the exact same matches or feel of the ATP WT. By realism, we mean playing each match with a tennis flavored mind, rather than just playing another videogame. Think things out, work points to your strengths, don't do anything ridiculous. SV is certainly not ridiculous, though you might look silly if you're doing it wrong. 100 power 100 serve is ridiculous, as is any created player with speed lower than 50.

[C4iLL]

Like I said if ITST wants to make "realism" part of the rules then it has to ban s/v because it doesn't exist in the real world. Players who s/v almost all their points on their serve are not realistic. Players who come to the net the majority of the points in a match are not realistic. If people here want to allow this then they have to admit that realism is not a criteria for ITST.

100 % true

Stop trolling people, nothing was ever realistic in the top spin serie, except maybe on the 3.

TS has always been something between arcade (Virtua Tennis) and Sim (Tennis Elbow on pc ?). So except on a sim tour, you won't get any realism on ITST with the normal tour...

If you want an example of what i mean, just watch a game between 2 members of the Top Spin 1 ITST normal tour : it shows that the site wasn't ever focused on realism...

Risk shots were allowed by the rules which wasn't realistic at all. Currently the game is particurlarly more realistic than it is with the Risk Shots on TS1, but people complains. What would have they done on TS1 then ?

Here's a link of a Top Spin 1 game between 2 ITST members : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWqUsa1faAc

Every members of the TOP50 played like that by the past and just few people (who wanted a sim tour) complained. Yet it wasn't realistic...

[Indiantonike]

Here's a link of a Top Spin 1 game between 2 ITST members : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWqUsa1faAc

So ugly

[oshiee]

Like I said if ITST wants to make "realism" part of the rules then it has to ban s/v because it doesn't exist in the real world.

This is the most audacious statement I've heard on here in a while!

1- SV was the most important/popular style of tennis for a LONG time. Less than 10 years ago, Sampras won the USO. He was pretty good. Just look at the pro characters in the game. They chose 'legends' as well as current stars, and Pete, Rafter, and Becker were all "net shaggers" (wtf? ).

2- You're totally misinterpreting the realism aspect of ITST. The goal is not to create the exact same matches or feel of the ATP WT. By realism, we mean playing each match with a tennis flavored mind, rather than just playing another videogame. Think things out, work points to your strengths, don't do anything ridiculous. SV is certainly not ridiculous, though you might look silly if you're doing it wrong. 100 power 100 serve is ridiculous, as is any created player with speed lower than 50.

"The style takes advantage of the games limitations, making it completely unrealistic compared to real life tennis."

COMPARED TO REAL LIFE TENNIS

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9288

Interesting the fair play statement mentions nothing about playing with a tennis flavored mind but instead emphasizes comparisons to real life tennis.

And s/v is not reflective of real life tennis. S/V style takes advantage of the games limitations (i.e. giving them incredible reach at the net) and makes the game completely unrealistic compared to real life tennis. A direct violation of the ITST fair play statement. Someone who plays 90% of the points of the entire match at net is not playing a style of tennis that is reflective of real life tennis.

But I guess I must've misread "as compared to real life tennis".

so: over 90 power is cheesy, Instant Rocket cheesy, >90% of match at net, not cheesy.

And I accept the game is nowhere near real. I'm fine with that. Keep s/v then. But don't with one corner of your mouth bemoan power, drop shots, etc as not "real" while defending s/v with the other. You can't have it both ways.
Tennis flavored mind? ok if that's the criteria for fair play then fine but let's not pretend tennis flavored mind is equivalent with reality because as long as that criteria allows s/v to exist as it does now on top spin 4 it is not in touch with reality.

[Tuurbine]

I have to agree that the players reach at the net sometimes or most of the times goes beyond ridiculous, reaching impossible balls teletransporting themselves from one side to the other and then reaching out and magically hitting the ball back with an amazing accuracy and angle...

Also a perfect or good timing in a volley shot is not needed to hit a deadly volley (if volley stats are high enough)

[Sanoww]

Wow, after watching this video, everybody should say 'ok, why are we complaining now, the game is in deed pretty well-balanced !'

Good lesson, thank C4iLL

[Tuurbine]

Wow, after watching this video, everybody should say 'ok, why are we complaining now, the game is pretty well-balanced !'

Good lesson, thank C4iLL

The video was nuts, but it also shows the evolution ITST has had throughout the years. Good to see that the things have evolved not in a darwinian way but in a "fair play first" way.

[djarvik]

2- You're totally misinterpreting the realism aspect of ITST. The goal is not to create the exact same matches or feel of the ATP WT. By realism, we mean playing each match with a tennis flavored mind, rather than just playing another videogame. Think things out, work points to your strengths, don't do anything ridiculous. SV is certainly not ridiculous, though you might look silly if you're doing it wrong. 100 power 100 serve is ridiculous, as is any created player with speed lower than 50.

I endorse this statement. Fully.

[Rob ITST]

And s/v is not reflective of real life tennis. S/V style takes advantage of the games limitations (i.e. giving them incredible reach at the net) and makes the game completely unrealistic compared to real life tennis. A direct violation of the ITST fair play statement. Someone who plays 90% of the points of the entire match at net is not playing a style of tennis that is reflective of real life tennis.

Wrong. It might not reflect the current pro game, but it is a reflection of how the game has been played for the majority of the past 100 years. Also, once you get outside of the professional rankings, you see a lot more s&v. However, hitting drop shots on every point is not a reflection of how the game has been played ever.

I do agree about the guys who charge the net on a first serve, but getting to net first has traditionally been the winning strategy in tennis.