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Postby farshad » Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:37

C4iLL wrote:
farshad wrote:
C4iLL wrote:About s&v you can't pass them just because you're not good enough against a good s&v... Berson, Robin, Strategyguide or even Fedfan for instance, has passed me easily at the net...

Do not blame the game of your own insufficiency...

It seems you don't get it, no one or atleast me! didn't blame the game because i can't pass the ball,im saying it is unreal when the guy is a FEW METER further and he still hit it.
volley is not an easy thing to execute , its very risky but in this game the story is a bit different.
we are not talking about people ability now.


YOU don't get it. An average s&v player is easy to be passed. Every s&v i played so far are easy to pass, even with bad stats in FH/BH.

If you have difficulties to pass them : it's that because you're not so good, or you don't have the right character to do it or your opponent is really great..
Only great s&v can catch hard balls : and if they succeed to do that, it's not because it's easy, it's because they anticipate well.

S&v requires a lot more concentration, skill and placement than the over playing style. And even though you're at the top of this style, you keep loosing games against the best baseliners players. You'll win against average/good players (who will be frustrated) but as in the reality i think it's impossible to reach the top10 with that setup on ITST.

ps : and i just don't talk about the abusing passing shot skill which can be considered as a nonsense... (when llodra comes to the net in the reality, i don't see any players becoming something like a super saiyanjin)

See, again you say the same thing! im saying a player MUST NOT BE ABLE TO catch the ball when its a few meter far from him. thats all! im not talking about passing them or not.
yeap, i played against horrible S&V players even some good ones and they were getting passed easy and once played against a very good one i guess who was taking almost every goddamn ball from left to right! that means the guy is playing GOOD ON TOP SPIN, but that doesn't mean any thing like that exists in reality.
all im saying is ITS UNREAL!
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Postby kiplaird » Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:55

( i think i posted this somewhere else??)

When in lobby the chance to view Rankings, not just counting down the clock., or even the tounament info with previous round players results.

At the start of the match, during the warmup or in the tunnel, it shows players name and location, would like to see ranking and previous results in that tournament, Who they played last or last times result when in the tournament.
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Postby C4iLL » Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:38

farshad wrote:
C4iLL wrote:
farshad wrote:
C4iLL wrote:About s&v you can't pass them just because you're not good enough against a good s&v... Berson, Robin, Strategyguide or even Fedfan for instance, has passed me easily at the net...

Do not blame the game of your own insufficiency...

It seems you don't get it, no one or atleast me! didn't blame the game because i can't pass the ball,im saying it is unreal when the guy is a FEW METER further and he still hit it.
volley is not an easy thing to execute , its very risky but in this game the story is a bit different.
we are not talking about people ability now.


YOU don't get it. An average s&v player is easy to be passed. Every s&v i played so far are easy to pass, even with bad stats in FH/BH.

If you have difficulties to pass them : it's that because you're not so good, or you don't have the right character to do it or your opponent is really great..
Only great s&v can catch hard balls : and if they succeed to do that, it's not because it's easy, it's because they anticipate well.

S&v requires a lot more concentration, skill and placement than the over playing style. And even though you're at the top of this style, you keep loosing games against the best baseliners players. You'll win against average/good players (who will be frustrated) but as in the reality i think it's impossible to reach the top10 with that setup on ITST.

ps : and i just don't talk about the abusing passing shot skill which can be considered as a nonsense... (when llodra comes to the net in the reality, i don't see any players becoming something like a super saiyanjin)

See, again you say the same thing! im saying a player MUST NOT BE ABLE TO catch the ball when its a few meter far from him. thats all! im not talking about passing them or not.
yeap, i played against horrible S&V players even some good ones and they were getting passed easy and once played against a very good one i guess who was taking almost every goddamn ball from left to right! that means the guy is playing GOOD ON TOP SPIN, but that doesn't mean any thing like that exists in reality.
all im saying is ITS UNREAL!


So you want to nerf s&v despite the fact that it's still weak as it is...
Not very logic and fair dude... If 2K apply your request, no more s&v will be at least in the top 100.

In my mind s&v should stay as it is, and controlled shots / passing shot skill should be re-balanced because it's way to easy to pass a man on the net :roll:
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Postby Dark-Disaster » Mon, 01 Aug 2011 23:58

I have based my whole playstyle on serve and volley and I have noticed a few things about this game. It is incredibly easy for the baseliner to hit a low ball for the volleyer. However, they made it so that the volleyer can get nearly every shot, the result is the inability to finish the point quickly. This isn't a benefit to the volleyer, I always lose against smart baseliners usually defensive baseliner. This could be fixed by making it harder to dip the ball low and making a volley a higher risk shot. This would make it closer to how it is in real life.
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Postby jayl0ve » Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:46

I find it strange that the service return is SOO INCREDIBLY OVERPOWERED in this game, yet everybody can't stfu about serve and volley!! It's definitely not impossible to counter! I ran into a very good Becker in 2K open recently, and he won his 1st 3 service games at love...did I give up?? NO I kept trying different returns and eventually found a couple that gave him problems...in fact he ended up ragequitting right after I won the 1st set:lol: Honestly I thought I might not even win a point against this guy's serve for the entire match, but I definitely figured it out...my point is everybody has their patterns and shots they like, nobody is invincible, it's up to you to figure something out!

So to me it's either...

1) I'm trippin and service returns are not overpowered, thus maybe giving some credence to the 'S&V is OP' argument

2) Serve and volley is not nearly as overpowered as people are saying it
is.

Returns and S&V cannot both be overpowered. That makes no sense.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:53

jayl0ve wrote:I find it strange that the service return is SOO INCREDIBLY OVERPOWERED in this game, yet everybody can't stfu about serve and volley!! It's definitely not impossible to counter! I ran into a very good Becker in 2K open recently, and he won his 1st 3 service games at love...did I give up?? NO I kept trying different returns and eventually found a couple that gave him problems...in fact he ended up ragequitting right after I won the 1st set:lol: Honestly I thought I might not even win a point against this guy's serve for the entire match, but I definitely figured it out...my point is everybody has their patterns and shots they like, nobody is invincible, it's up to you to figure something out!

So to me it's either...

1) I'm trippin and service returns are not overpowered, thus maybe giving some credence to the 'S&V is OP' argument

2) Serve and volley is not nearly as overpowered as people are saying it
is.

Returns and S&V cannot both be overpowered. That makes no sense.


Some people just seem to be very big complainers here.
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