topspin invasion

[ItaStallion]

again i don't want the game to change my setups have good and bad match ups so they are beatable.

Why do you all want to change the game? you can't win so change is needed it's pathetic.

[djarvik]

again i don't want the game to change my setups have good and bad match ups so they are beatable.

Why do you all want to change the game? you can't win so change is needed it's pathetic.

hmmm I win and want change. Anil wins and want change. SO are most of who is winning. soooo....hmm... I thing you kinda wrong here.

[ItaStallion]

as i said in another topic i think you should all hand your copies back into 2K get them to fix everything you want fixed and get the game back in a years time and be happy...

Oh wait you won't be happy cause as usual someone always wants to complain.

you give evidence of one person who wins and wants change im another who wins and doesn't want change....... who are these others who are winning and want the game to change? please i would love to hear it

[Wrathchild tw]

no kidding if i post my monster setup/s everyone will use it....... they is that good.

i experimented with the game tried every possible combination until i found it. Don't want my hard work to be for nothing if i post it here.

Also don't want people to complain about them either so 2K fixes them. I'll wait for 2K to finish updating there game before i post the 2 setups.

You do realize that anytime someone plays you they see your setup right? It's not some trade secret that is hidden from everyone, he is just asking you to post it here since you want everyone "to experiment" with different setups.

[ItaStallion]

i have used this setup once online against 1 opponent.

But i know by the animations, speed and trajectory of the balls it is defiantly a winning setup.

I want everyone to try and make as many setups as possible first before i post this winning setup so to speak.

As i do not want the game to become a shallow mess with 2 setups dominating online and ITST with barely any different setups used.

Ever since the Aniljte and Sinna match everyone has used TI/MD as if it's the key to success yes it is the key to success until you run into a better build or better player in general.

Want people to know there that there is more than 1 winning style in this game.

Am currently using a lesser player in ITST tournaments until....

A. 2K finish updating the game or

B, Announce there will be no more updates. Which im expecting 1 single patch and then 2K are done with this game.

[Wrathchild tw]

i have used this setup once online against 1 opponent.

But i know by the animations, speed and trajectory of the balls it is defiantly a winning setup.

You used this killer setup once and this is what you've going on and on about? This super secret can't lose to TSI/MD setup that proves that they don't need to patch... is something you played ONE game with?

Excuse if I stop taking you seriously at this point.

[ItaStallion]

I understand if you are not taking me seriously.

The caliber of the player i versed i would always end up in a tiebreak with them they use TI/MD dominantly and are extremely good at timing there shots and player position.

Yet with this setup i was able to break him/her twice in 1 set which was undo able with my TI/MD character mirror match.

So yes i know 100% for sure this setup is just as strong if not stronger than the TI/MD setup.

[tigerofintegrity]

You know what guys, I don't see a problem here. Itastallion claims to have this super-godlike setup that can dominate everyone but he's kind enough not to use it against us at all. So we can just happily pretend it doesn't exist and go about doing our stuff without having to worry about it. Let's just thank Itastallion for sparing us and move on to things that do exist for everyone.

[fernado9t0rres]

is this secret setup lag invasion/mistimed expert

no i played you on WT last night and you would of beat me anyway, but my god never had such lag, but cant be helped with austrailians i feel like quitting when i play anyone from there, same with fifa aswell so isnt just this game.

can a mod change this name please bitter liverpool fan if available multiple_sarcasm cheers

[Mack2300]

is this secret setup lag invasion/mistimed expert

I heard you can unlock a coach with the traits lag invasion/splitstep inflictor

[Hawkeye Miihawk]

is this secret setup lag invasion/mistimed expert

rotflmao Reminds me of my connection yesterday. Anil knows what I'm talking about.
That setup is definitely stronger than TI/MD lol.

[fernado9t0rres]

the lag seems alot worse in this years top spin, i can deal with the mistimed shots, but when i get it i feel like my man is wearing an old deep sea diving uniform even if i have high speed and reflex plus the invisible man when you think you got a clean winner and relax next minute a rocket just passed you

[Mack2300]

the lag seems alot worse in this years top spin, i can deal with the mistimed shots, but when i get it i feel like my man is wearing an old deep sea diving uniform even if i have high speed and reflex plus the invisible man when you think you got a clean winner and relax next minute a rocket just passed you

Was just saying in another thread that speed seems completely messed up in this game. I was using a character with 92 speed earlier and he was still slow, splitstepping, failing to recover when dragged out wide, etc..
It seems that everything I was good at in ts3, I am dire at in ts4. My anticipation is now awful..I always seem to be out of position and getting to the ball late

[fernado9t0rres]

Was just saying in another thread that speed seems completely messed up in this game. I was using a character with 92 speed earlier and he was still slow, splitstepping, failing to recover when dragged out wide, etc..
It seems that everything I was good at in ts3, I am dire at in ts4. My anticipation is now awful..I always seem to be out of position and getting to the ball late

yeah i remember you from old one on WT now and then, and you got to everything and remember thinking if you had a good serve you would be one of the best.

but yeah this year speed is pointless and they wonder why everyone is OFB although speed is good to get to net this year more than last and what am seeing alot is people holding approach shot every shot with instant rocket then pulling back up

[Oscarzero]

I understand if you are not taking me seriously.

The caliber of the player i versed i would always end up in a tiebreak with them they use TI/MD dominantly and are extremely good at timing there shots and player position.

Yet with this setup i was able to break him/her twice in 1 set which was undo able with my TI/MD character mirror match.

So yes i know 100% for sure this setup is just as strong if not stronger than the TI/MD setup.

Hey, I wanna try
Nah, in fact, everyone will know that set-up after the ITST tournament unless you still keep it as your secret weapon until against me

Btw, Ita, I understand why you don't wanna change the game, and I also understand why the others want to change it. What I can say to you and to other is that, the best players will always be the best no matter how the game changes. If your timing, position and anticipation are great, no matter it's TI/MD S&V Inside Out or Swing, you will always be one of the strongest one in the TS4 world (ok as long as you don't use some silly set-ups).

So just be calm. Even if TI/MD or your new monster set-up are "banned" by the patch, just try something else, and prove to others that you aren't rely on those setups but your own abilities.

I also think that the game is ok and not much changes needed, but I won't object the changes that much. I see that as an opportunity to prove myself because I trust my abilities.