Top Spin 4 - Player Balancing Updates

[Seftinho]

Here is the scenario.

You have played a good slice shot into the corner, you decide now is the time to chip and charge. You get into the net. Your opponent, on the stretch, just manages to get to the ball, and knocks it into the air, above racket height.

I press the B (smash) button when the ball falls into hitting range.

Does my player:

A) Smash the ball for the winner.
B) Ignore me, wait for the ball to almost hit the floor then stretch down play a pathetic volley back into play

The correct answer is... OPTION B. The player refuses to smash when I tell him to, and instead waits for the ball to nearly touch the ground before attempting to scoop it over the net.

Nice one 2k. Bloody nice one.

[djarvik]

Seftinho, what are your reasons for joining ITST?

[Seftinho]

To moan about this game.

And also to see if I just suck or others are having the same problems. But mainly to moan.

[L Sanchez MD]

I have had the same problem - it's incredibly annoying
There's also the one where your character is at net, and instead of reaching to hit a volley, he'll do a half-lunge, half-fall to get the volley, and will then take 2.3 days to recover back into position.

I think it's a flaw with the game, but you can usually avoid it by making super sure you're in the best position to hit a volley.
Nothing worse than going for a volley, and being too far back, and having to hit a weak, poorly timed half-volley.

[djarvik]

To moan about this game.

And also to see if I just suck or others are having the same problems. But mainly to moan.

Please use 2K boards to moan. If you need help with the game - just ask, I am sure people will help.

Any future "moaning" from you will be deleted.

[emate007]

To moan about this game.

Man, for some reason I find this hilarious!

"OooHHhhhh, TOPSPIN 4, AAOOOWOOUUO, Uuunngh!"

[supinesmokey13]

Here is the scenario.

You have played a good slice shot into the corner, you decide now is the time to chip and charge. You get into the net. Your opponent, on the stretch, just manages to get to the ball, and knocks it into the air, above racket height.

I press the B (smash) button when the ball falls into hitting range.

Does my player:

A) Smash the ball for the winner.
B) Ignore me, wait for the ball to almost hit the floor then stretch down play a pathetic volley back into play

The correct answer is... OPTION B. The player refuses to smash when I tell him to, and instead waits for the ball to nearly touch the ground before attempting to scoop it over the net.

Nice one 2k. Bloody nice one.

I have the problem but you have to make sure you try to hit the volley before the ball drops below the height of the net and even if you have to hit a half-volley if you time it well you can still hit a good volley

[RainingAmoeba79]

What supinesmokey is saying is right, you first have to position yourself then hit the button. It is all about moving: moving Forward for a floater/low volley, and moving backward for a lob. It is all about Footwork!

[VILARCANE]

@Seftinho : Well, my theory still stands and get proof of it every single match i play : utterly ridicilous in-game balancing actually preventing you from playing at your level...results in boring matches where you have no sense of accomplishment, because sometimes you hit perfect shots, move smoothly and are able to play your game, or your player turns into a complete amateur hitting everything wide or without power/angle.
I mean come on, we are all very proficient players here, timing and movement was always my forte before shit hit the fan with those updates...

It is always so ludicrous to see powerservers hit perfect aces and be rewarded with a fault because it does not fit in the big balancing scheme (i am sure of that because i usually play in zoom cam so i can see exactly WHERE the ball lands, and the ball is IN, believe me )

After the latest updates, we played with a buddy, soooo boring,
many unforced errors even with perfect timing, movement scripted to death to prevent your digital puppet from actually getting to the ball...
i mean come on, admit it !

I would like someone here to actually ask 2K if what i (an many others) think is right, and the AI actually messes with our game (both offline and online, tried offline on very hard, exact same symptoms)

well, whatever, i quit this game...

[LokiSharpShootr]

@Seftinho : Well, my theory still stands and get proof of it every single match i play : utterly ridicilous in-game balancing actually preventing you from playing at your level...results in boring matches where you have no sense of accomplishment, because sometimes you hit perfect shots, move smoothly and are able to play your game, or your player turns into a complete amateur hitting everything wide or without power/angle.
I mean come on, we are all very proficient players here, timing and movement was always my forte before shit hit the fan with those updates...

It is always so ludicrous to see powerservers hit perfect aces and be rewarded with a fault because it does not fit in the big balancing scheme (i am sure of that because i usually play in zoom cam so i can see exactly WHERE the ball lands, and the ball is IN, believe me )

After the latest updates, we played with a buddy, soooo boring,
many unforced errors even with perfect timing, movement scripted to death to prevent your digital puppet from actually getting to the ball...
i mean come on, admit it !

I would like someone here to actually ask 2K if what i (an many others) think is right, and the AI actually messes with our game (both offline and online, tried offline on very hard, exact same symptoms)

well, whatever, i quit this game...

you people see what im talking about??? ITST is full of complainers, good players complain that rallies go forever, UE are impossible to happen, angles are too easy to make while on the other hand bad players complain the exact opposit such as this guy, people need to stop complaining about evertyhing and look for ways to get better.

Searching this forum you can find a lot usefull information like dont pre-press, use a lot of control shots, use RB for positioning fast, go for the angles etc.

BTW: who loses to the AI cant call themselves proficient players.

[VILARCANE]

hand bad player, thanks, udermining other players skills is your only way to reply to everybody's complaint, to me, this is exactly what people say when they have nothing else to add to the argument...
the game is still broken, no matter how good or bad i am supposed to play in your own view, based on which facts btw ?
and please, i don't lose against the AI, i say the AI is cheating on you, which is different, so don't twist it your own way, i actually played djoko on very hard in a 3/3 exhib and won, and would have won with a much bigger score than 1-3 4-3 4-3 if the AI didn't have its share of foul play along the way...


btw, naysayers are hand bad posters IMO

[LokiSharpShootr]

hand bad??? LOL learn how to read kid, i wrote ´´on the other hand`` thats an expression you know, okay its the game fault, while a lot of people manage to be good TS4 hates you, so even tough ure awesome you still lose.

BTW: the game is not broken, how can you say that the game is broken???
it might in ITST view dont be as good as TS3 but how can you say its broken???

blame it on the game the reason for your shame bro.

[VILARCANE]

whatever, ignore the hundreds of players thinking like me as you please...sure nothing's wrong with this game, so why the hundreds of posts about it and the numerous updates, take a wild guess and stop being a smart ass for a change, you know in your posts, you might as well use a coma between hand and bad, that's called punctuation...



its nice seeing djarvik coming here to censor people complaining about the game, especially i a thread dedicated to discussing those player balancing updates...game balancing update would be more appropriate, but i got your point, no need to argue with you guys, you are ranked in the ITST leaderboards, so your kind of godlike right

[djarvik]

I only sensor members like you in this thread, that come for sole reason of venting their frustration. They have 0 involvement in our community and only pollute the boards with their non-constructive, mostly skill-lacking claims and visions of "how it should be". And I only censored about 3 members in total. You will be the forth going forward.

I suggest you stick to what you think you are good at, making players.

Good luck.

[edlglide]

There's no way you are hitting tons of unforced errors with perfect timing unless you are in TERRIBLE positions around the court.

I usually hit only 1 or 2 UE every match, and that's playing against other humans or playing the CPU on expert.