Regular Tour Rule Suggestion #3

[Ali-Iqb93]

No only welch needs to be made less effective.. Other coaches are not overpowered

[Ary1g]

I'm not talking about other coaches being overpowered. I'm talking about finding a rule which makes the OP coaches less powerful, and open up for other coaches to be more competitive in the tour. This rule actually does this very good, except for Neuwirth, who's a 540 build. I can hardly believe Welsh will be so OP when level 18, and only 3 bonuses on wings. Babb will also only be available at level 18, making 98/98 to 91/90. It should make a huge difference dealing with them.

Also, 3/4 of the gold coaches are 540 or less. Which would make them more competitive, because there's little difference from level 19 to 20. While level between 18 and 20, you get a wing bonus, and 29 attribute points.

There might be another solution too. Increasing the limit to 535 will make Rabari available at level 19, which I'm guessing would be more interesting for you.

With limit at 535, Welsh, Babb, Gallo, and all 550 coaches are only available at level 18. Whilst 545 and 540 coaches are available at level 19. Leaving 535 and less coaches to be available with level 20 players.

This would make a huge difference in the Regular Tour here. The weaker coaches of today would all become competitive.


What do you think, Djarvik?

It's a very simple and effective rule.
Just add all attributes together to check if your coach is available.

[Murmeltier88]

I voted for "No".

In my oppinion Welch is not OP - he is very good coach yes, but not unstoppable or something.

Yesterday I played against aleex_92 in my 2nd round match and I played with Welch and was up to a 6/3, 4/1 lead. In the end, he defeated me, and I really did the best I could.

For me, this match was proof enough, that this coach is not that much OP.
You can beat him, besides not every shot with Welch is an advantage.
If you hit the balls with only good timing, it's quite hard to counter...

On good days, I have a rate of 98,9 % with perfect timing. But when you hit one shot with a good or even worse timing - you mostly lose the rallye against a good Rabari or Neuwirth player for example.

Welch can be really good, but he can also be annoying, if you cannot control him.

I say it again and again. It's the person behind the virtual player, not this setup, which makes him good.

[Ali-Iqb93]

I voted for "No".

In my oppinion Welch is not OP - he is very good coach yes, but not unstoppable or something.

Yesterday I played against aleex_92 in my 2nd round match and I played with Welch and was up to a 6/3, 4/1 lead. In the end, he defeated me, and I really did the best I could.

For me, this match was proof enough, that this coach is not that much OP.
You can beat him, besides not every shot with Welch is an advantage.
If you hit the balls with only good timing, it's quite hard to counter...

On good days, I have a rate of 98,9 % with perfect timing. But when you hit one shot with a good or even worse timing - you mostly lose the rallye

against a good Rabari or Neuwirth player for example.

Welch can be really good, but he can also be annoying, if you cannot control him.

I say it again and again. It's the person behind the virtual player, not this setup, which makes him good.

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I disagree.. I played obskur and federer_4ever.. I used to beat them.. Sometimes in straight sets sometimes in 3setter and these matches were played recently just 1-2 weeks back.. But now they are using welch and they destroy me everytime I play them in straight sets..

Just examine the stats of welch. This setup has no apparent weakness.. Only stats which are weak are power and service.. Which is insanely stupid. The good wings on both fh and bh gives you alot of power in your shots.. Weak service is not a problem for welch rather slow serves is a weapon itself.. And even if a welch guys serves with stick he can serve at 194km/h easily.. Soo welch has no weakness.. You ve got to admit this fact that welch is stronger coach than the rest.. Murmeltier it's obvious that you are defending welch because you use him. No hard feelings But this is the truth that welch is op

[Ali-Iqb93]

And guys like obskur or federer_4ever who changed their setups from neuwrith and rabari have said themselves that how easy it is to use welch comparable to other coaches..

[Tamthewasp]

I like how murmeltier thought welch was overpowered b4 he starting using him.

No1 that uses Welch will say he is overpowered because if you go welch you are desperate 2 win.

Welch is a stronger coach than TI/MD.
These 2 are God Mode coaches.
Then tier 1 coaches
Then tier 2 coaches.
lvl 18 Welch would be reasonable.

I don't mind losing.

I do mind feeling cheated.

[Tamthewasp]

It won't be long until 90% of the tour use Welch. This will be worse than when Hitler invaded Poland.

[Ali-Iqb93]

Yea it's soo annoying to see two of my practice partners and close friends using welch now.. And they say that "we know welch is overpowered and we hate welch but we are tired of losing against welch. We won't stop using welch until he is banned"

[DennieFR1908]

Don't worry I think there is a good chance there will be changes when it comes to Welch. There are very many complainments about him and since more and more people start using welch I'm sure there is a chance something might happen. It's simular to the situation of MD. ITST staff isn't sleeping.

[Ary1g]

Welsh is OP. Done with that


What are your thoughts on the 535 attribute limit? Check it out with the coach calculator.

550 is limited to level 18 players.

Welsh, Babb, Gallo, Slavina, Ercolani

545-540 is limited to level 19 players.

Babb(Yes, a few builds are 545 too) Rabari, Zajik, Fillion, Grody, Neuwirth, Dipesa

535 and less have no limits.

Moriya, Raissi, Meoki, Kozak



That's just some of the coaches.
The more I think of it, the more I believe it's a great idea!

Pros:
No more coaches are banned.
Weakens the strongest setups, and strengthens the weakest setups.
It's very simple to check your opponent before a match. [ Just add all stats together and make sure it doesn't exceed 535 ]

Cons: Neuwirth..

[DennieFR1908]

lol. You tought it out well didn't ya... I think these things are to complicated man the idea itself isn't bad but it will never happen

[Ary1g]

lol. You tought it out well didn't ya... I think these things are to complicated man the idea itself isn't bad but it will never happen

How is it too complicated?
Look at Sim Tour. Look at TS3. Nobody ever had much trouble with the rules.

Don't have more than 535 attribute points.

I assume the majority of players on ITST know basic math.

[Tamthewasp]

Yh my maths rock.

5+5= potatoes

[Ary1g]

What do you think about this rule, Tam?

[Tamthewasp]

I'm confused!!!.

Make Welch lvl 18 only. Babb at 20 is ok for me but maybe make him 18 also. That is all I want.