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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Thu, 03 May 2012 04:43

DennieFR1908 wrote:sh0 is a great player yes, but not unbeatable. It's a fact I played far from my best that match. When I would play my normal level I'm not so sure he would beat me.


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Postby Fifa Tee » Thu, 03 May 2012 07:44

regardless of the new rules i think certain players are at certain levels, but certain setups allow certain players to challenge on tour which is what makes it competitive, i still believe that if two players play fairly, the one who is at a higher level will win in the regular tour.. Agassi vs Federer is another story...
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Postby Sh0Case » Thu, 03 May 2012 11:59

LokiSharpShootr wrote:
DennieFR1908 wrote:sh0 is a great player yes, but not unbeatable. It's a fact I played far from my best that match. When I would play my normal level I'm not so sure he would beat me.


I was going to troll you but then mehh.


http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... c&start=30

Now that Fifa Tee has started to play on PS3 again, you might not even need to say anything. Although, it seems the PS3 tour is going through a similar phase to the xbox tour :shock:
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Postby JohnCurveo » Thu, 03 May 2012 13:49

I dont understand something. Some people talks about variety. If i have 30 players in a game, and i ban 15, i have more variety? wtf? Obviusly not. Now , with these rules, i cant play like Isner for example.

I think more players, more fun, more people.
Less players, less fun, less people.

All the setups should be allowed.

Its just my point of view.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Thu, 03 May 2012 15:54

LokiSharpShootr wrote:
DennieFR1908 wrote:sh0 is a great player yes, but not unbeatable. It's a fact I played far from my best that match. When I would play my normal level I'm not so sure he would beat me.


I was going to troll you but then mehh.


There is nothing to troll about? You never have an offday? all things you wanted to troll about are explainable.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Thu, 03 May 2012 16:05

JohnCurveo wrote:I dont understand something. Some people talks about variety. If i have 30 players in a game, and i ban 15, i have more variety? wtf? Obviusly not. Now , with these rules, i cant play like Isner for example.

I think more players, more fun, more people.
Less players, less fun, less people.

All the setups should be allowed.

Its just my point of view.


These things are discussed to death. It's just that there are flaws in the game for example with 93-83 wings you can abuse short cross control shots. Every point will go the same and it will create a lack of VARIETY. Same goes for extremely high power shots. Abuse powershots every single stroke and eventually it's to much to handle.

And ofcourse you can still play like isner.. Babb also gives you a huge serve without the 98 serve.. with 85 serve and those special skills you can hit ALOT of aces..
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Postby JohnCurveo » Thu, 03 May 2012 16:33

I don't think so, i think with 93-85, it's good, its true that u can hit aces, but it's like Haider-Maurer, not like Raonic or Isner. U cant hit DEFINITIVE shots.
Dont say 93-85 its like Isner or Raonic. That's funny and make no sense. I played with all Babb's. But with 98/98, its the most real Raonic Isner setup. With 93-85 u cant decide if u want to hit an ace with 200 kmh or 230 km/h.

If theres not a top ten player with Babb in itst, and u add this ban, it's impossible to play with Babb.

About short crosses, u can still play with short crosses with other players. So, what are u talking about?

If u make every shot with a short crosses or high power, u are easy to handle. Its impossible to win only making one tipe of shot.
There is a way to beat people that makes to short crosses shots, and people that makes high power shots. If u cant play against them. Bad luck.
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Postby Tamthewasp » Thu, 03 May 2012 16:41

You put serve and volley in2 babb and he is just still an outright ace machine.

Welch cross courts are much more effective than any1 elses. That is clear as day.

If after a set or an hour evry serve still has max speed on it with no adverse effect in the game then that is a huge flaw in the game. Especoally while evry shot im a rally is also full power. Does Isner hit Evry ball as hard as can in a game?
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Postby JohnCurveo » Thu, 03 May 2012 17:12

No adverse effect? Did u played with Babb? After a big rally is **** up.
But if u hit every shot with perfect? What u want? the game deciding wich shot is out or in?

Now, tell me top 20 98/98 Babb in itst and in wt. Because its so hard to play against him...
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Postby Tamthewasp » Thu, 03 May 2012 17:45

There's a general unwritten rule I believe that players won't use Babb because he is unfair. I know lots of ps3 players who would use babb but know that the 98/98 version is unfair. Fabada is probably the best who fits this criteria. I'm not sure if Fifa Tee on xbox used babb but the xbox tour had a lot of top babb players. And forgot about WT it is irrelevant here. It's 2 easy 2 beat babb and it's 2 easy 2 use.
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Postby Sh0Case » Thu, 03 May 2012 17:49

On the Xbox Tour supermassy831 and Avinash Patel use 98/98.
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Postby JohnCurveo » Thu, 03 May 2012 19:39

@Sh0Case I didn't know that about xbox tour

@Tamthewasp I don't think is that easy to use. I'm playing again on top spin since some weeks ago and i think im not in top yet using Babb. That means its not that easy to use.

I dont know fabada and i dont play ever against him, so i cant talk.
I dont think Babb is unfair.
I dont think any player is unfair.

If u know a lot of players that thinks Babb is unfair and didn't use because of that, congratulations. But i dont understand something. If Babb is that easy to beat, why is unfair? What means unfair?

Unwritten rule? so im unwritted player. I will use Babb till the rules allow it.
Anyway its nice to discuss.
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Postby Tamthewasp » Thu, 03 May 2012 20:00

JohnCurveo wrote:@Sh0Case I didn't know that about xbox tour

@Tamthewasp I don't think is that easy to use. I'm playing again on top spin since some weeks ago and i think im not in top yet using Babb. That means its not that easy to use.

I dont know fabada and i dont play ever against him, so i cant talk.
I dont think Babb is unfair.
I dont think any player is unfair.

If u know a lot of players that thinks Babb is unfair and didn't use because of that, congratulations. But i dont understand something. If Babb is that easy to beat, why is unfair? What means unfair?

Unwritten rule? so im unwritted player. I will use Babb till the rules allow it.
Anyway its nice to discuss.


I'm not sure if you're trying too be condesending on purpose. By unwritten rule I mean a general understanding that not 2 use babb. Personally I usually don't have problems vs Babb but a lot of people do. The fact that Serving with Babb is 2 easy.
If you are not at the top yet maybe this is because it's rather easy too beat babb I don't mean 6-0 or 6-2.

I much more consider welch unfair and much more abused than babb.
With these rules I strongly believe that Babb becomes a much better player giving you more speed amd stronger wings for rallies and bteaking your opponents. It also means that you need some skill 2 hit aces.
I may be wrong but I don't think I am.
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Postby JohnCurveo » Thu, 03 May 2012 20:31

Will see. Its true that Babb its the most easy player when u have no skills. Im not at the top because i dont hit perfect all balls, and i dont hit all the services on the lines with right stick serve.

I want to see how easy is Babb to beat, so, if u want, add me on psn: johnisner

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Postby Tamthewasp » Thu, 03 May 2012 20:45

JohnCurveo wrote:Will see. Its true that Babb its the most easy player when u have no skills. Im not at the top because i dont hit perfect all balls, and i dont hit all the services on the lines with right stick serve.

I want to see how easy is Babb to beat, so, if u want, add me on psn: johnisner

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I've added you. But you might just be a better player. We will see.
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