ITST World Tour Finals (Men's Singles Pro)

[Painted Crystal]

Show me the rule. Until that everybody can abuse it on every shot.

Indeed, there's no rule, you're right. But there are posts by Rob or djarvik (I'm not sure if this is by the first or the second) where the author says that R1 shots without going to the net are really cheesy !!

Then, I think that if you record a game vs a crazy R1 player and show it to the hosts, the R1 abuser could be disqualified

Absolutely no

[djarvik]

How does the manual/game describe the R1 button? (exact words)

[ICEMAN_9588]

I think they're cheesy too, but here's what Moralspain (another admin) told me a few days ago in another topic...

They're not banned so far, all you guys have to do is to check this thread

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=15300

and

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1054&t=16574

They should be added to that list????, maybe but for now they're not.

So for now, they can be used.

[VMoe86]

How does the manual/game describe the R1 button? (exact words)

There you go:

[Burna747]

@Pepe once after a match i told the host that i could upload my recorded video to proof that my opponent abused rb and his answer was:

fact is that the tactic of using rb over and over again is not against any rule so there's nothing to do.

I lost the match without a chance to play it again!
You remember my poll about rb on service without rushing the net? A host told me to create that poll! It showed that more players think it is cheesy but it is still allowed. You can do what you want they will never change the rules.

[djarvik]

How does the manual/game describe the R1 button? (exact words)

There you go:

Thanks Vmoe.


So a question to all that use this button, are you "Rushing the net" when using it?

[VMoe86]

So a question to all that use this button, are you "Rushing the net" when using it?

R1 button is also mentioned for Quick Repositioning.

[djarvik]

Re-positioning is before the shot

My question relates to using it while hitting the ball.

Thanks for clarification

[Pepe Bradock]

Re-positioning is before the shot

My question relates to using it while hitting the ball.

Thanks for clarification

To answer you question : clearly no !! Kings of R1 like VectorPL, Hass2ssan (who's also king of lagging, what makes more and more often people quit against him, like Chahine19 did in Shanghai) and Zaid, all 3 guys playing somethinhg like 90 % (!!!) of their shots with R1, dont come to the net after these shots. Zaid is the one who goes the more often to the net, 2 others, not so much...

Anyway, what is sure is that they don't use that button to systematically go to the net ...

[djarvik]

I will post my reply to Bruna747. This is what I personally think on the matter.

Hi,
i could upload a video for you and show you how it looks when someone is using rb/r1 to rush the net and another video to show when someone uses rb/r1 in the cheesy way. More and more peoples are using it when they hit the ball without rushing the net! Same thing on service btw....

I am well aware of both.

Personally, I consider it cheesy as the person who does that uses an in game glitch that allows you to quickly back up after after pressing the "Approach the net" button. It mainly has to do with the fact that same button is being used to re-position, so what happens is that after the approach is being executed, the button suddenly serves as a preposition button, thrusting the player, jerking him back.

The game does add a bit more power, angle etc.. to the "approach shot", because it expects you to approach the net....giving you a bit of handicap to get there.

So all in all, I think that using this button and not approaching the net is basically using a loophole in the game to gain advantage. The game was not designed to give you that advantage, it is simply not designed well enough to eliminate it in that regard.

As for the rules, it is very tough to introduce the rules so late in the life of the game.

Al

[BrushedBigJJ]

Re-positioning is before the shot

My question relates to using it while hitting the ball.

Thanks for clarification

I'll tell you what I know about r1 so you have all the info when making a rule.
First a quick back story. When I used my 46 power approach shot master I was trying to get more control "power" shots and it did work a little. But what really helped me is that my player repositioned better because I was pressing r1 so much and I could get my player to cover the court more the way I wanted.

First, if you are holding r1 while your opponent is hitting the ball you get punished much worse if you choose the wrong way, and it only gets worse if your stamina gets lower.

Second, if you are holding r1 while your opponent is hitting the ball, you can let r1 go before you do a control shot and your player won't jump forward(most of the time); but if you do a power shot and let r1 go after their shot and before your shot your player will still jump forward most of the time even though you weren't touching r1 during your shot.

Third, the jump from r1 is all over the place, sometimes it's a big leap, sometimes it's a small step, sometimes it's a jump in place, sometimes it jumps off the court, and sometimes it just does a normal shot without jumping at all. When the game lets you control the direction of the jump, you can go up and left, up, or up and right.

Fourth, using r1 for repositioning use to work like topspin 3, in the sense you could use it during the point to get your player moving as needed. Now, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And most people don't touch r1 cause its unstableness messes with timing.

Fifth, if you release/tap a shot button and then immediately press r1 after you release the shot button it does a good job of making sure your player isn't in "walk mode" but there will still be those instances when the player will jump forward even though you pressed r1 after you released the shot button.