Regular Tour Rule Suggestion #3

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Restrict attributes for the regular tour in TS4?

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Yes, but this needs a few adjustments.
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Total votes : 13

Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:30

i always used rabari from day one.. all of the above matches i used rabari

as for fideris first match he used rabari, second match welch
poumadoro first match rabari, 2nd match welch
obskur, elgogrin, used rabari as well, federer_4ever used neuwrith, i even remember dennie destroying me with his welch but against his neuwrith we have 3 setters matches mostly.. as for practice matches i feel i m relaxed soo i play better.. in itst matches you get nervous on big points and games as well..

i have not defeted a good welch player other than murmeltier, i remember beating xesco15 other than murmeltier but at that time xesco15 was a new comer.. recently when i played xesco he used rabari. other than murmeltier i always lose to good welch guys.. i m talking good welch not even great as sh0case.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:34

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:I defeated firderis rabari 6-4 6-0 6-1, next time he uses welch I lose 6-4 4-6 4-6

I beat obskur most of the times in 3setter or straight sets, he uses welch I lose 3-6 2-6

I beat federer_4ever neuwrith in straight sets, he uses welch I lose in straight sets

I beat tino perf 6-4 6-1, he uses welch I lose 7-6 1-6 6-7

I beat poumadoro in 3 tough sets, he uses welch I lose next two matches 3-6 3-6 and 2-6 2-6

I play elgogrin and I gave him tough three setter, he uses welch I lose 0-6 1-6


djarvik You can't deny these things sais something right.. You can always try to find an explanation for everything but there are already some facts which tells the truth.

Record against Welch this season: 1W 4L
Record against other players: 12W 0L


djarvik wrote:Loosing in ITST tournament is not testing or proof of anything as far as I am concerned.


Why isn't this proof? It's to bad you don't take other players who also play this game for a while now more serious I don't see myself as someone that doesn't know anything of the game I've played alot of matches too.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:44

djarvik play dennie a set against his welch and 1 set against his neuwrith.. you ll notice the overpoweredness of welch as compared to other setups yourself
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:46

You are defining "Good Welsh" by "Players I lost to". That kinda says it all.

With the same token, you can say that half the matches you won - is because you used Rabbari. You, if I remember correctly, at some point proclaimed Rabbari to be the best setup and you were using him, when everyone cried about banning him. Why? Because they were losing to players mostly using Rabbari's. Now the trend changed. But not the game.

You had no problem beating Welsh before. There were plenty Welsh users since day one. In fact, I predicted very early that at some point Welsh will be the most popular setup. But people back then where all about Rabari or the MD coaches.

Anyway. You went from using one of the best players, to complaining about one. Where were you when everyone called for Rabbari's head? :wink:
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:54

how many people cried out to ban rabari? can you send me a link or some pole thread where 60 or even 55 percent people were saying to ban rabari? i might be wrong because i started to read forums regularly 5-6 months back.. i do remember people complaining about rabari but did some a top 10 ranked player complained about rabari? i m not in top 10 but fabada, dennie are :D
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:57

DennieFR1908 wrote:
Ali-Iqb93 wrote:I defeated firderis rabari 6-4 6-0 6-1, next time he uses welch I lose 6-4 4-6 4-6

I beat obskur most of the times in 3setter or straight sets, he uses welch I lose 3-6 2-6

I beat federer_4ever neuwrith in straight sets, he uses welch I lose in straight sets

I beat tino perf 6-4 6-1, he uses welch I lose 7-6 1-6 6-7

I beat poumadoro in 3 tough sets, he uses welch I lose next two matches 3-6 3-6 and 2-6 2-6

I play elgogrin and I gave him tough three setter, he uses welch I lose 0-6 1-6


djarvik You can't deny these things sais something right.. You can always try to find an explanation for everything but there are already some facts which tells the truth.


I can and I am.

DennieFR1908 wrote:Record against Welch this season: 1W 4L
Record against other players: 12W 0L


Who's record it is? Yours?


djarvik wrote:Loosing in ITST tournament is not testing or proof of anything as far as I am concerned.


DennieFR1908 wrote:Why isn't this proof? It's to bad you don't take other players who also play this game for a while now more serious I don't see myself as someone that doesn't know anything of the game I've played alot of matches too.


It is not a proof because the loser usually looks for comfort and a tier 1 player provides such comfort. I take you very seriously. I also think you are wrong.
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:59

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:how many people cried out to ban rabari? can you send me a link or some pole thread where 60 or even 55 percent people were saying to ban rabari? i might be wrong because i started to read forums regularly 5-6 months back.. i do remember people complaining about rabari but did some a top 10 ranked player complained about rabari? i m not in top 10 but fabada, dennie are :D


I don't recall Polls about it, but there were plenty of complaints. Just do a search, or go back. BTW - you and Dennie where not participating in forums much back then - hence less bitching :lol: ...but same problem.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:59

and i never claimed that i can beat welch easily.. you saying that i had no problem beating welch? i never said that welch is easy to counter and people complaining about rabari was before the update i guess? if that is soo then that makes sense because before update power players dominated the tour but after the update it were control shots that gave you advantage and that is what made welch even more worse.. people not complaining about welch in early days was because welch control shots were not as worse as they are now
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:02

lol its not bitching its a suggestion or a discussion :D

one thing i can say for sure is that even if there were complaints about rabari then they were not as much instense and not much even in numbers as you see everyday against welch by the members here
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:11

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:lol its not bitching its a suggestion or a discussion :D

one thing i can say for sure is that even if there were complaints about rabari then they were not as much instense and not much even in numbers as you see everyday against welch by the members here


What numbers? I see you and Dennie going on about most of the time. :lol:

Sometimes Arg will put up 8-9 threads of rule suggestions. :lol:

Not saying that you are the only ones who want him Banned (or castrated) but you certainly the most vocal.

Tomthewasp's opinion should be always taken with a grain of cocaine.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:16

i think gulbis loves welch thats why you dont want welch to be banned :D
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:26

GULBIS IS WELCH! 8)

Seriously. I don't care. I don't use him and don't enjoy playing against him. But there are people who do. So I have to be bias about it.

Lets ban Rabbari! What do you say? I truly believe he is the best setup. :?
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:42

I truly believe he is the best setup.


Glad to know that at least you agree with something I said. :lol:
I remember fabada saying as well that rabari is the best coach. I still say as well that rabari is the the best coach but not overpowered. 8)
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Postby Tamthewasp » Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:13

A grain of cocaine, ha.

Why dismiss my opinions?

I only think Drew is OP and should be neutered. Welch makes good players and great players exceptional.
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Postby djarvik » Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:42

Just messin wit ya, of course your opinion counts as much as everyone elses.
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