R1 hitters

[Ekelhaff123]

hey guys, i have a question. there is an "unwritten rule" which says hitting groundstrokes and serves with R1 without coming to the net is a cheesy tactic right? or am i wrong?

i had an ITST break for 3/4 year now and started again with the new season.i played with the ID Ekelhaff1979. but seeing some guys still using cheesy tactics and coming thru with it makes me sick and make me think about quiting ITST forever. i know, i am no elite player or even a good player, but most of the time i had fun. but now the fun is nearly gone.

for what i take time to schedule a match with writing messages, spend my free time for this game if i have to play these kinda players. it has nothing to do with i cannot loose. if a player is better then i am, its totally ok, but when i'm losing cuz the other one plays cheesy pis.. me really off.

sometimes i think, i can write messages to the host that much i like, nothing will ever change. its sad, but i guess its the truth

[ICEMAN_9588]

I asked the same questions a few time ago.
Staffers answered me that this tactic is not forbidden, for now.

So, it's officially allowed in ITST, as far as I know.

[Ekelhaff123]

okay, thx for reply. and its good to know i am not the only one who dislike this kinda style, maybe the hosts should think about changing this

[VMoe86]

There does not always have to be an "official rule" for something, to strictly forbid a particular situation. After all, one maybe had the intention to rush to the net, but changed mind and stayed back, it was an accident or something. It is easy to spot the R1 serves and groundstrokes and if that is happening all the time without going to the net, then R1 is not used as it was meant to be.

Maybe that is a good advice:

Use R1 on serve and groundstrokes as it is meant to be, i.e. to go to the net. If you hold R1 without going to the net frequently it can be considered cheesy.

[ICEMAN_9588]

In fact I think it can happen sometime that a guy changes his mind after he hit R1 shot, and doesn't want to go to the net anymore.
But that counts for banned shots too. I mean, it can happen once or twice during the match.

If you do it sistematically, it's different.

[Painted Crystal]

There does not always have to be an "official rule" for something, to strictly forbid a particular situation. After all, one maybe had the intention to rush to the net, but changed mind and stayed back, it was an accident or something. It is easy to spot the R1 serves and groundstrokes and if that is happening all the time without going to the net, then R1 is not used as it was meant to be.

Maybe that is a good advice:

Use R1 on serve and groundstrokes as it is meant to be, i.e. to go to the net. If you hold R1 without going to the net frequently it can be considered cheesy.

Cheesy is not the same word "forbidden"...
It's time to say this tactic is forbidden when you abuse it and not only cheesy

[sebastianhu]

The problem with this game is that u can play as cheesy as you want, the only way to actually have a chance to claim someone to be cheesy is to tape it - and it's not many people who have this kind of software.

I don't know how many times I've complained about cheesy tactics from some players (and I know that more people have done this) but nothing is beeing done.
I mean, obviously just words are not enough here so there's no point in deciding what is cheesy or not - some people still don't fallow it.

[Pepe Bradock]

I agree with several players who have explained thier point of view on this topic : cheesy and so what ?

Vmoe, you agree that a systematic use of R1 without going to the net is cheesy, but which is the consequence of this ? Because with present rules, you can say to a guy using these tactics that he's a cheesy player, yeah... But if the guy doesn't take any count of the remark you've sent to him, well, he's totally free not to change anything to his game and to still go abusing of R1 without any risk of penalty.

To resume, not going beyond the cheesy statement is a kind of hypocrisy. Because if we stay like this, nothing a R1 addict to stop his cheesy way of playing ; so the only guy "punished" will still be the man who is affected by the game of his opponent...

[VMoe86]

It is very simple: If you report a cheesy player to me (for a tournament I am host of) then I will file a complaint. If he had more complaints before then it will lead to immediate replay of the match or further action. If there are no filed complaints for a player then one can hardly do anything on the first complaint except to suggest him to replay the match without being cheesy (and I do suggest that, some do follow it, replay the match and lose, whereas they won in cheesy way).