World Tour: 80% Powersettings

[ICEMAN_9588]

That's simply the popular opinion...and nothing more.

I've experienced this thing by myself.
I've learned about control shots only few months ago. First times, I was horrible, in WT and in my first matches here in ITST.
Then I've practiced and now I'm more confident than in the beginning.

It's all about that, practice. And I know I can get better.

Now, you still want to tell me that this thing doesn't require skills?
I must suppose I've a natural gift? Or my joystick suddenly started to do all the job?

[BluudyEEfingaz]

Please read the topic...then read the comments...then read my comments. I think you're confused. No one is saying it's cheap but when shots are exploited EXCESSIVELY it becomes cheap. That's why the rule came for us to serve in the center because the game is FLAWED and over a duration the player moves further outwide. Rules are expected to be followed...but we pick and choose those rules...like the banning of coaches because people EXPLOITED Monster Defense. Why is this so hard to understand?? I'm simply pointing out that why complain about one thing but then accept another. Power/Control...at this point I could care less...because some of the biggest cheaters who've ever played this game have made a home here and quickly spread their "cheese" all over this tour. Maybe this game isn't at all fixable...but why complain about WT players was my original question. They exploit power while your top players here exploit control shots...deal with it.

Sidenote: there are no such shots as control shots in REAL tennis since you want to bring Federer or Nadal into this topic...the only slow deep shots played in tennis are SLICES! I don't care how you play...you can hit the ball with your shoe for all I care. I'm done.

[BluudyEEfingaz]

Now, you still want to tell me that this thing doesn't require skills?
I must suppose I've a natural gift? Or my joystick suddenly started to do all the job?

No it requires as much skill to press a button as it does to pick your nose. Just because a ball is hit softer or slower has NOTHING to do with any skill...the same could and should be done with a slice shot...Serve&Volley play is a skill, Baseliner play, All-court play, that's skill, Playing every single shot slowly is annoying, uninteresting and unrealistic.

[JohnCurveo]

Bla bla bla, when 2 players are good, it's the same. Wefan, wtf are u doing man? i can't forget your "if u want to play a match vs me please you have to pick a 75 or less power player"

I think is hard to play 98/98 or 100/91 vs a great Monster defence or that drop shoter coach i don't remember. If ure a noob and u serve from the middle or 1 step, it's just the same that playing with other coaches. The only difference is on defensive drop shots, abuse lobs or tramline serve. ICEMAN is a prove of that. I like to play him in WT and i would like to see him in ITST playing with 100/91, he's great and fair.

Control shots with bad timing are not good? i will film a video in which i will play with only bad control shots vs a good 98/98 or 100/91. And i will show u the reality., If u shot a return with BAD timing, ALWAYS goes inside the coure. ALWAYS. If u play control shots, u can beat everyone, even if u hit bad shots.
REALITY:

PERFECT Control shot vs GOOD Power shot = Control shot wins
PERFECT Power shot vs GOOD Control shot = EQUAL

I can tell u if u make a REGULAR shot with a power shot, u can stay in rally, if u do it with a power shot, ure dead.

Sometimes i return 9898 serves or 10091 with BAD TIMING and even the ball goes far, and it's possible to repositioning. I'm always talking about fair players.

Sometimes i try to play with PERFECT power shots on ITST vs big players and i end losing easily. Looks like if u play power shots from the beginning, ure condemned.

[ICEMAN_9588]

Please read the topic...then read the comments...then read my comments. I think you're confused. No one is saying it's cheap but when shots are exploited EXCESSIVELY it becomes cheap. That's why the rule came for us to serve in the center because the game is FLAWED and over a duration the player moves further outwide. Rules are expected to be followed...but we pick and choose those rules...like the banning of coaches because people EXPLOITED Monster Defense. Why is this so hard to understand?? I'm simply pointing out that why complain about one thing but then accept another. Power/Control...at this point I could care less...because some of the biggest cheaters who've ever played this game have made a home here and quickly spread their "cheese" all over this tour. Maybe this game isn't at all fixable...but why complain about WT players was my original question. They exploit power while your top players here exploit control shots...deal with it.

Sidenote: there are no such shots as control shots in REAL tennis since you want to bring Federer or Nadal into this topic...the only slow deep shots played in tennis are SLICES! I don't care how you play...you can hit the ball with your shoe for all I care. I'm done.

So what? What does "exploiting Monster Defense" mean? If I play with a setup for a long time, I become better and better with it, it could be Quah, or Neuwirt, or Rabari or Gallo or whoever.
You keep talking about realism, but according to your opinions, we should play without power settings and without control shots, so ok...everybody let's play serve and volley (but not too much lobs, ok guys?).

And in real tennis, you can compare control shots to shot-counter, the ability to use the speed of your opponent's shot to generate another fast shot.
Agassi and Davydenko buildt an entire career on "anticipated" shots. Federer is the firs player in history that plays shot-counter in an offensive way, with his feet on the baseline, or near the baseline.

Look at this video, Andre never lets the ball come up before he hit it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkBUod7nnC0

Then look at this video of Federer-Nadal in ATP Finals (2010), the position on court by Roger, the timing on the shots. He won't go back, no matter what.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XWS-uhfSFE

[Agassi_Return]

Bla bla bla, when 2 players are good, it's the same. Wefan, wtf are u doing man? i can't forget your "if u want to play a REmatch vs me please you have to pick a 75 or less power player"

fixed.
You losed all matches with Bob (86 power - 82 (?) Serve) and didnt want a rematch with defence baseliner. Instead of you told me you would beat me if you pick 98/98. All you want is a rematch by your (power) rules ..but your are not the rule maker after your losed all matches vs me - deal with it.

PERFECT Control shot vs GOOD Power shot = Control shot wins
PERFECT Power shot vs GOOD Control shot = EQUAL

No Control Shots by Noob vs. Power shots by noob = Power shot wins
Perfect Control Shoots by baseliner vs. Perfect Powershots + perfect Serve and cheesenes by 98/98 = Control Shoots win in a VERY close match, BUT:

Perfect Control Shoots by baseliner vs. Perfect Shots and all cheesenes (drop shot spam for example) by baseliner = Control Shoots win easily.

Sometimes i try to play with PERFECT power shots on ITST vs big players and i end losing easily. Looks like if u play power shots from the beginning, ure condemned.

First of all you cant use 98/98 Settings in ITST as you know. Secondy to hit 95% of your control shots (whichs means topsin, slice and power shots) as defence baseliner in all areas require more skill as to hit only perfect power shots. Thats why so many power setting players in WT Mode sucks with baseliner:

- They have less experience in defence (control) shots
- They cant use serve (+corner serve) to make easy points or overpower you by hitting power shots
- You can easily lose a point when you hit a powershot with bad timing as defence baseliner

And if you able to play 95% all the different control shots by perfect timing it is absolutely OK that this playing style is more effectiv as only using power shots + serve. BUT the extreme power settings in wt mode require less kills to hold your serve and win games.

..and its not all about shots when you are in rally. The unrealistic and easy serve is the best weapon to hold your serve in WT Mode with less skill on timing in rallys and less experience on the defence part.

100 power + hitting a power shot + poor timing = a powerful shot that isn't close to the lines.
Hitting a control shot + poor timing = a slow ball that isn't close to the lines.

That ain't no opinion.

THIS!

[ICEMAN_9588]

Ok guys, hold on a second...Agassi_Return is Wefan?

[Agassi_Return]

Ok guys, hold on a second...Agassi_Return is Wefan?

lol ..in our previous discussion i told you twice that i am wefan XD ...and i also told you that you are not the typical power player

[ICEMAN_9588]

Ok guys, hold on a second...Agassi_Return is Wefan?

lol ..in our previous discussion i told you twice that i am wefan XD ...and i also told you that you are not the typical power player

I remember the last part (and I thank you again about that), but I've missed when you said to me that you were Wefan LOL

Anyway I'm glad you're here too. I wanted to invite u in ITST, but you stopped playing in World Tour.
How are you doing?

[Agassi_Return]

I wanted to invite u in ITST, but you stopped playing in World Tour.
How are you doing?

Yes, i just waiting for TS5 ...and NOT on XBox ONE

[ICEMAN_9588]

Well, that's for sure