Top Spin 4 - Player Balancing Updates

[Sh0Case]

I'm referring to when I play good net players like Fifa Tee, Khult and Davidou.
1/20 is a reference to what match?

[C4iLL]

During almost every games I played against the english mafia : you, Fifa tee & Onetouch.

Since the last update, lobs against s&v = as cheesy as dropshots are for baseliners. There is a rule for dropshots, there should be a rule for lobs if there's no new update.

In addition, they are easier to hit than drop shots ! Pressing one button is required for lobs instead of 2 for dropshots... And they are always in !

[Firderis]

I admit lobs are easier to hit since the update, BUT:

S&V-players with a high volley-skill and reflexes can come to the net in the craziest moments without being punished. Once they are at the net, a good S&Ver can produce volleys putting you under a huge pressure, making them almost not passable by normal shots.

Lobs are too easy, but they are not cheesy! Sometimes they are the only possibility to beat an experienced S&Ver. And I don't know what experience you guys made, but my matches against skilled S&Vers were always close. I think that in a match S&V vs DBL/OBL conditions are almost equal, at least no one really dominates the other setup, for me that's the most important thing. And as I see it, you can still force your opponent to do a bad lob which goes out, but it needs a well prepared volley.

[RainingAmoeba79]

I admit lobs are easier to hit since the update, BUT:

S&V-players with a high volley-skill and reflexes can come to the net in the craziest moments without being punished. Once they are at the net, a good S&Ver can produce volleys putting you under a huge pressure, making them almost not passable by normal shots.

Lobs are too easy, but they are not cheesy! Sometimes they are the only possibility to beat an experienced S&Ver. And I don't know what experience you guys made, but my matches against skilled S&Vers were always close. I think that in a match S&V vs DBL/OBL conditions are almost equal, at least no one really dominates the other setup, for me that's the most important thing. And as I see it, you can still force your opponent to do a bad lob which goes out, but it needs a well prepared volley.

Drop shots/volleys are easy, but not cheesy! Sometimes they are the only way to beat an experienced baseliner!



They are way too easy to pull of and really hard to counter. I mean really, how many times do you see a successful lob winner on tour? Maybe 1-2 times per match. Plus, add in the fact that it is sooooo easy to drop the ball low, and you get half volleys all day as a S and Ver.

[Firderis]

Drop shots/volleys are easy, but not cheesy! Sometimes they are the only way to beat an experienced baseliner!

Well, I disagree with that. you actually can beat good baseliners as S&V even without dropshots.
look at the sim-tour, people are able to have awesome rallies even with a 50 back- or forehand. you definitely are able to stay in rallies or to prepare a point well from the baseline as S&V. you can come to the net very easily and once you are there, you are superman. then, as baseliner your last hope very often is to lob, because you can't hold them always in distance to the net, it's impossible!

in sumary: against people who really mastered S&V, you need a lob as baseliner and it's an appropriate situation to use it when someone is coming to the net.

As S&V, dropshots can be a legal mean (if someone is far behind the baseline) but are not the only way/necessary to make a point.

the risk of being lobbed when coming to the net is normal, so you should minimize it be putting your opponent under a huge pressure preventing him from lobbing. as baseliner, it's also normal to anticipate a dropshot when standing behind the baseline so I would not consider it as cheesy, except they are spammed in inappropriate situations.


that's what I wanted to say.

[Tamthewasp]

Do not go 2 the net simple or if you are a good serve an volleyer then you should know knowhow and when to go 2 net. Far 2 many SnV rush after serve. You will lose a service match witgin 12 games.

[DennieFR1908]

Drop shots/volleys are easy, but not cheesy! Sometimes they are the only way to beat an experienced baseliner!



They are way too easy to pull of and really hard to counter. I mean really, how many times do you see a successful lob winner on tour? Maybe 1-2 times per match. Plus, add in the fact that it is sooooo easy to drop the ball low, and you get half volleys all day as a S and Ver.

I disagree with you. Indeed after the update I don´t see dropshots as cheesy anymore. They are much more realistic and NOT hard to counter. Mostly I reply with another DS short cross but a cs down the line works very well also. I think the ds complainers of these days are just either bad losers or bad players who can´t handle them. Succesful lob winner on tour? I hit almost every lob as a winner, and it´s really to easy I don´t know how you excecute your lob shots but this is veery easy..

The half volleys are annoying indeed but what they can do I can do to: When they excecute those half court balls on your enckle every time you go to the net I will reply with a ds every time, simple.

[L Sanchez MD]

Do not go 2 the net simple or if you are a good serve an volleyer then you should know knowhow and when to go 2 net. Far 2 many SnV rush after serve. You will lose a service match witgin 12 games.

Methinks you need to reword that

True though, a good S&Ver will sometimes stay back for the changeup, or stay back and look for the early approach shot if the S&V outright isn't working.

[Corbon]

I wish you would be able to do a cross court passing shot when the CPU opponent is at the net; Which is impossible if you're playing on Hard+ against pretty much everyone. Your only chance is a well-timed long line flat - and even that shot is getting intercepted often because of the CPU's ridiculous "reflexes" and range - or a lob.

Also slices shouldn't apparently fly through the net and bounce off as if the ball hit a sandpit.

[Corbon]

Can't connect to server, incoming update maybe?

[Ali-Iqb93]

Yes I can't connect either.. Soo I should not start my itst match with fifa-tee then?

[JohnCurveo]

WTF happened u_u

[Ali-Iqb93]

Server is fine now.. No updates