Full Ace tennis game

[Mike Rotchtickles]

@ kschoice,
You might always want to take this

I didn't realize Q had posted the same comment on your forums. I still don't think his intentions were bad, but I understand you reaction a bit since that does seem a bit odd - something we're all used to from Q.

and this

You have to learn to read messages COMPLETELY before answering them.

into consideration, and then you will feel a whole lot better when trying to "communicate" with Q.

[kschoice]

@ kschoice,
You might always want to take this

I didn't realize Q had posted the same comment on your forums. I still don't think his intentions were bad, but I understand you reaction a bit since that does seem a bit odd - something we're all used to from Q.

and this

You have to learn to read messages COMPLETELY before answering them.

into consideration, and then you will feel a whole lot better when trying to "communicate" with Q.

Thanks I already received several similar warnings, but as I said, there are some things I just can't let go...

[Sherlock 117]

BTW, I have left some other comments at the bottom of page 8 of this thread. I hope you didn't miss those.

[kschoice]

BTW, I have left some other comments at the bottom of page 8 of this thread. I hope you didn't miss those.

Don't worry, purchasing process is something we still have to improve, my colleague who is more in charge of that read your comments carefully.

It's not rare to have to create an account when you checkout on purchasing sites, but I guess it's not handy in our case when we only have one product to sell anyway.

[kschoice]

BTW, I have left some other comments at the bottom of page 8 of this thread. I hope you didn't miss those.

Did you try the keyboard fix ?

[Sherlock 117]

I have downloaded your fixed version and I can now use the keyboard just fine. Some new bugs to report though.

1. I cannot use the full version, only the demo version. Even though I have saved the license to the proper directory. Some info about this bug. I saved the more recent download in a different directory than the first one (first one was under "My Documents", second was under "C:/Program Files"). I receive the following message upon opening the game:

"Full Ace detercted that you are playing on a different computer than before.
You already changed computer in the last 24 hours.
Full version features are disabled."

I then deleted the old version from my computer, but the problem still persists. I was able to use the full version on the first download.

2. I think the reactions for the game on getting input from the keyboard are a little buggy. I can specifically notice this on the serve. Sometimes I have to push a key two or three times before the service motion begins.

3. This isn't a bug, but more of some feedback on the actual game. The tutorials were very good actually. The tutorial where you have to get the pro to run 25 yards was very good and helped reinforce all the shots from before. But at the same time it was very difficult to complete. Sometimes I would be very close to completing the tutorial, only to have the pro miss his shot and then have to start back at 0. Maybe if the pro misses his shot the yards should not restart to 0.

You may consider adding a tutorial on the return of serve.

You should seriously consider adding a practice mode like DMT has. This is a very great feature and one that should not be too difficult to implement.

Also, this is just for your own info. I like what I see from your game a lot already. But I won't buy it unless I can play doubles online. This is a must for me.

[kschoice]

1. I cannot use the full version, only the demo version. Even though I have saved the license to the proper directory. Some info about this bug. I saved the more recent download in a different directory than the first one (first one was under "My Documents", second was under "C:/Program Files"). I receive the following message upon opening the game:

"Full Ace detercted that you are playing on a different computer than before.
You already changed computer in the last 24 hours.
Full version features are disabled."

I then deleted the old version from my computer, but the problem still persists. I was able to use the full version on the first download.

You probably tried to run the old and new versions several times in a row, which Full Ace interpreted as change of computers. For now you have to wait those 24 hours. You probably missed the first message that told you it detected a computer change and that it allowed it once per 24 hours. It's better practice to update over your last directory, or move your current licence file from the last install to the new one.
For now you have to wait those 24 hours, and you should also download the new version I've uploaded as there was something I forgot in the last one.

2. I think the reactions for the game on getting input from the keyboard are a little buggy. I can specifically notice this on the serve. Sometimes I have to push a key two or three times before the service motion begins.

This is a known limitation. Actually, the serve gesture doesn't begin when you ask for it while the ball is bouncing. That will be fixed eventually, but not before the first release I'm afraid.

3. This isn't a bug, but more of some feedback on the actual game. The tutorials were very good actually. The tutorial where you have to get the pro to run 25 yards was very good and helped reinforce all the shots from before. But at the same time it was very difficult to complete. Sometimes I would be very close to completing the tutorial, only to have the pro miss his shot and then have to start back at 0. Maybe if the pro misses his shot the yards should not restart to 0.

You may consider adding a tutorial on the return of serve.

You should seriously consider adding a practice mode like DMT has. This is a very great feature and one that should not be too difficult to implement.

All good remarks. I didn't find a good way to prevent this problem on the 25 yards lesson. Maybe yours would do the trick, I'll consider it.

A tutorial for returning serves is a good idea, I have many more ideas for tutorials, it's all a matter of time.

Practice mode already exists, but it has nasty bugs now that's why it wasn't delivered yet.

Also, this is just for your own info. I like what I see from your game a lot already. But I won't buy it unless I can play doubles online. This is a must for me.

Online play won't make it in the first release, sorry. But that is definitely a top priority for after (probably the top priority). Consider buying the game in spite of this , even if you don't get all the features right away it's only 15 € and further updates will be free.

[kschoice]

To Sherlock... I edited my last post, in case you already read it.

[Q. Reese]

Hey that is so good to hear. There is a guy for Tennis Elbow who charges you for every major updates of the game. TE 2004, TE 2006, and TE 2009. LOL.

So, it is good to see that we will be playing a one-time fee (with unlimited free updates)?

Spot on mate!

[kschoice]

Hey that is so good to hear. There is a guy for Tennis Elbow who charges you for every major updates of the game. TE 2004, TE 2006, and TE 2009. LOL.

So, it is good to see that we will be playing a one-time fee (with unlimited free updates)?

Spot on mate!

I don't know about "unlimited" but it will be this way until further notice.

By the way, what do you think of Full Ace compared to Tennis Elbow, especially in regard to their respective prices ?

[Q. Reese]

I must give you much praise, honor, dignity. LOL. You seem to be more lenient than TE 2009 game developer (Manutoo, I think his name is)?

I like TE 2009 a lot but refuse to buy it, because I know he will make a few more major tweaks and slap another price tag on it with a small 15% discount if you bought the game TE 2009 before.

You are offering 15 (euros) for your full version release. How often will we have to pay you again mate? You have anything in mind at the moment?

As of now, from what you just told Sherlock, I like the price (it seems reasonable).

Again, how often do you see us paying extra for game releases (or, as you put it, further updates)? Hehe. how further is further mate?! I want to know so badly.

[kyuuji]

I must give you much praise, honor, dignity. LOL. You seem to be more lenient than TE 2009 game developer (Manutoo, I think his name is)?

I like TE 2009 a lot but refuse to buy it, because I know he will make a few more major tweaks and slap another price tag on it with a small 15% discount if you bought the game TE 2009 before.

You are offering 15 (euros) for your full version release. How often will we have to pay you again mate? You have anything in mind at the moment?

As of now, from what you just told Sherlock, I like the price (it seems reasonable).

Again, how often do you see us paying extra for game releases (or, as you put it, further updates)? Hehe. how further is further mate?! I want to know so badly.

Yup you're right
I'll never quit that game because I'm the the 11th best player of Tennis Elbow

[kyuuji]

Hey that is so good to hear. There is a guy for Tennis Elbow who charges you for every major updates of the game. TE 2004, TE 2006, and TE 2009. LOL.

So, it is good to see that we will be playing a one-time fee (with unlimited free updates)?

Spot on mate!

I don't know about "unlimited" but it will be this way until further notice.

By the way, what do you think of Full Ace compared to Tennis Elbow, especially in regard to their respective prices ?

Sorry for double post but
hmm.. Can't say that Full Ace is the best game, sorry but because I'm playing Tennis Elbow for 2 years, so it's difficult to say that other games are better than Tennis Elbow. But I can say the Graphics are much better than Tennis Elbow, but the gameplay, I like more Tennis Elbow than Full Ace, but for Tennis Elbow 2010 the game will be totally 3D. So I'm waiting for it
Full Ace it's a Simulation game, like Top Spin 3, and Tennis Elbow what can I say, the same for me, but there aren't PRO TENNIS PLAYERS, you have to create one and enter in the Online Mode, there is a world tour blabla.. You choose your stats blabla..
The price, well, to pay with credit card for Tennis Elbow it's 20€, I asked if we can by phone, but he said it will be aroung 40€ so it's to much for me, I don't know how is for Full Ace, but I think the price is better for Full Ace.

[kschoice]

I must give you much praise, honor, dignity. LOL. You seem to be more lenient than TE 2009 game developer (Manutoo, I think his name is)?

I like TE 2009 a lot but refuse to buy it, because I know he will make a few more major tweaks and slap another price tag on it with a small 15% discount if you bought the game TE 2009 before.

You are offering 15 (euros) for your full version release. How often will we have to pay you again mate? You have anything in mind at the moment?

As of now, from what you just told Sherlock, I like the price (it seems reasonable).

Again, how often do you see us paying extra for game releases (or, as you put it, further updates)? Hehe. how further is further mate?! I want to know so badly.

Well, as you can understand, much of it has to do with how well we manage to sell the game. Ideally, I wouldn't want to make people pay again ever ; but that requires that the game would be pretty successful.

Actually, there are two different things that are most likely to happen :

_ first one is the game doesn't sell enough and we have to stop further development.
_ second one is the game sells well and we finish developing all the features I had in mind within a year or two and don't ask original customers for any complementary fee. As Full Ace becomes more and more complete, we will spend more time working on a new game which will then be our way to make more cash.

Ultimately, my plan isn't, as you stated for Tennis Elbow, to make major updates from time to time. I had a general idea of what I wanted Full Ace to be before I began programming it, and even if I didn't get to complete it before we had to release it, I still see it as 'one piece'. The only major update I can imagine which might require a new fee by itself is if we decided to make a brand new Full Ace with state-of-the-art graphics, motion capture and all the such, but it's not likely to happen before long.

Of course, we all have to eat, and in the end it will all depend on how many people buy the game. I think we sell it a particularly fair price in regard of its quality, and I hope you will tell all your friends about it so we can sustain our work for as long as possible.

[kschoice]

Hey that is so good to hear. There is a guy for Tennis Elbow who charges you for every major updates of the game. TE 2004, TE 2006, and TE 2009. LOL.

So, it is good to see that we will be playing a one-time fee (with unlimited free updates)?

Spot on mate!

I don't know about "unlimited" but it will be this way until further notice.

By the way, what do you think of Full Ace compared to Tennis Elbow, especially in regard to their respective prices ?

Sorry for double post but
hmm.. Can't say that Full Ace is the best game, sorry but because I'm playing Tennis Elbow for 2 years, so it's difficult to say that other games are better than Tennis Elbow. But I can say the Graphics are much better than Tennis Elbow, but the gameplay, I like more Tennis Elbow than Full Ace, but for Tennis Elbow 2010 the game will be totally 3D. So I'm waiting for it
Full Ace it's a Simulation game, like Top Spin 3, and Tennis Elbow what can I say, the same for me, but there aren't PRO TENNIS PLAYERS, you have to create one and enter in the Online Mode, there is a world tour blabla.. You choose your stats blabla..
The price, well, to pay with credit card for Tennis Elbow it's 20€, I asked if we can by phone, but he said it will be aroung 40€ so it's to much for me, I don't know how is for Full Ace, but I think the price is better for Full Ace.

Excuse me, but this is hard to follow... I fail to see your point

It would help me if you would explain what you like better in TE's gameplay over FA... And I don't really get it about pro tennis players, online mode, world tour ?