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Farewell MS Tour!

Postby ILuvBillVal » Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:45

As this season has unfolded I've realized a lot of things about myself, and about the tours. It's no secret the affection I've developed for the SIM tour. The points are more fun, the matches are more competitive and unpredictable, and it takes a real all around game to walk away on top. This has also really made the flaws of the MS tour stand out to me a lot more, and the quick points and boring outcomes (save for certain opponents).

Long story short, after the Australian Open I'll be hanging up my MS shoes. I work so many hours these days I barely can get all my matches played, anyway. I've had what would seem a successful start on paper to this season, yet I've realized the only way to be fully successful is to give in to certain setup types that unfortunately dominate the tour.

I was once a practitioner of these setups and I understand just how DULL it really is first hand to play the guessing game and risk return every serve. Now I'm just burnt on the whole concept and realize just how much a shame it is that anyone is afraid to have individuality because they fear the other guys with the big setups will pass them by.

I just want to say good luck to all my friends on the tour still. Norberto, an amazing power player we've been to hell and back together! Also guys like Mack, Puttu and Coolhand Texas you guys are all really amazing MS players and I wish you all the best of luck. I'm sure we'll all meet on the SIM courts anyway! Also for the guys who don't play on the SIM tour yet, or don't understand the concept, I urge you to learn! You will see the game in a whole new light and really gain tons of enjoyment from it.

So farewell friends for now! Maybe I'll play some slams if possible! :wink:
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Postby Puttu puttuu » Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:39

i'm joining you after the australian open also !

it does not really matter . TS3 is pretty much done . TS4 is out in less than two months so.... Norberto is the last man standing.
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Postby beltic caldy » Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:49

SIM SIM SIM!!!!!! reckon we have bit of life in the TS3 tour still....even when TS4 cones out, it will be a while before verdicts opinions etc settle

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Re: Farewell MS Tour!

Postby Baghdad Baghdatis » Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:19

ILuvBillVal wrote:As this season has unfolded I've realized a lot of things about myself, and about the tours. It's no secret the affection I've developed for the SIM tour. The points are more fun, the matches are more competitive and unpredictable, and it takes a real all around game to walk away on top. This has also really made the flaws of the MS tour stand out to me a lot more, and the quick points and boring outcomes (save for certain opponents).

Long story short, after the Australian Open I'll be hanging up my MS shoes. I work so many hours these days I barely can get all my matches played, anyway. I've had what would seem a successful start on paper to this season, yet I've realized the only way to be fully successful is to give in to certain setup types that unfortunately dominate the tour.

I was once a practitioner of these setups and I understand just how DULL it really is first hand to play the guessing game and risk return every serve. Now I'm just burnt on the whole concept and realize just how much a shame it is that anyone is afraid to have individuality because they fear the other guys with the big setups will pass them by.

I just want to say good luck to all my friends on the tour still. Norberto, an amazing power player we've been to hell and back together! Also guys like Mack, Puttu and Coolhand Texas you guys are all really amazing MS players and I wish you all the best of luck. I'm sure we'll all meet on the SIM courts anyway! Also for the guys who don't play on the SIM tour yet, or don't understand the concept, I urge you to learn! You will see the game in a whole new light and really gain tons of enjoyment from it.

So farewell friends for now! Maybe I'll play some slams if possible! :wink:


I hear you loud of clear Jesse. As soon as the SIM tour was born 1 year ago I dropped MS like a smelly poo down the toilet. For me there is no comparison.

To be effective at SIM needs sharp intelligence and demands a player to be creative, versatile and competitive. On the flip side of the coin to be effective at MS means to be have a stacked set up, risk return with 40 XP usually and to be effective over your opponent in all the wrong ways.

It still confuses me to this day how some people actually prefer MS to SIM but whilst I have had to learn to understand that people like arcade quick unrealistic points on the other hand it still leaves me confused as to why, when there is a whole wide world out there if you know what I mean? (a whole SIM topspin world) :lol:

Now Noberto knows I ain't go a lot of respect for his game, it has never been a secret. And hands down, regardless of what others may say in this post (or even you Jesse being all humble) but Illuv is a better player pound for pound than Noberto (as was Picachu in MS). For me to be the champion of MS is like taking the bronze medal and to be the champion of SIM is like taking the gold. Your head to head record is proof of my very point. Don't get me wrong big MS players like Noberto, Swifty, Rafa are very efficient at what they do and there is no "competitor" better than Noberto. However that said players like Picachu, Illuv, Djarivk, Zizou, Puttu can create points from all angles and at all speeds and what better place to do that than in SIM :wink:

Just to add the moment I left MS I became a better player, I was forced to become a better player by the variety of the XP's. Being able to concentrate soley on SIM and not be corrupted by the speed / timing of MS was a large factor in my rise to the top and every tournament from there on in was fun. I genuinely looked to forward to playing every SIM tournament and relished the chance for my opponent to beat me by out thinking me, not out powering me (like in MS).

I have not played MS in a long while but decided to enter the AO for a laugh, and who have I got next, Rafa-bully :cry:

Quite controversial the above is I suppose, but hey, a forum is there to spark up at bit isn't it from time to time...

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Postby beltic caldy » Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:47

afraid, for the nay-sayers, that i couldn't agree more - playing a match where opponent (successfully or otherwise) risk-returns every time....it's just rubbish - don't get me wrong - there's a skill involved, sure - but it's not a game i want to play or get good at - it's not tennis - it's something, but it's not tennis.

i wonder how much intervention will be required by ITST to modify TS4 to eliminate the non-tennis aspects, as per TS3/SIM.....hopefully not much!!!!

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Postby KINAMINAJ » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:29

at least they got a goodbye ;) did not think you knew how to do that
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Postby beltic caldy » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:42

...erm...don't understand!?
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Postby synesthesia70 » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:13

there's still a MS tour? what??!
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Postby AMAZING ZIZOU » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:41

The best commercial for the SIM tour ever !!!

I was planning on doing the same before the Aussie but couldn't resist
I might have one last match against Norberto for my last reg match. My ultimate try....after more or less a dozen of tries

Give it all to sim for the few mounths we have left
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Postby Mack2300 » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:19

Funny, I am thinking of doing the exact opposite :lol: I have tried so hard with sim but it doesn't like me and I'm clearly not as good as I thought I would be at it as my results have been poor over the past year with the exception of a fluke run at the season ending championships. My tolerance level has run out. Played an exhibiton set against synthesia earlier and choked a 5-1 lead to lose 6-7, wasting match points in the tiebreak too :roll: Final nail in the coffin

What I will say though is that the one thing the regular tour has over the sim is that in extreme laggy conditions, sim is just downright unplayable, whereas at least you can try and hit through the lag in regular. In general, you can compensate a lot more for lag in 40-90.
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Postby Hamburgerboy27 » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:31

Nice...have lose my Fun last Year by the MS Tour and is no comparison too the Sim Tour.
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Postby synesthesia70 » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:43

Mack2300 wrote:Funny, I am thinking of doing the exact opposite :lol: I have tried so hard with sim but it doesn't like me and I'm clearly not as good as I thought I would be at it as my results have been poor over the past year with the exception of a fluke run at the season ending championships. My tolerance level has run out. Played an exhibiton set against synthesia earlier and choked a 5-1 lead to lose 6-7, wasting match points in the tiebreak too :roll: Final nail in the coffin

What I will say though is that the one thing the regular tour has over the sim is that in extreme laggy conditions, sim is just downright unplayable, whereas at least you can try and hit through the lag in regular. In general, you can compensate a lot more for lag in 40-90.


I mean you have the shots and I really don't see why you don't do well at sim. And about the exhibition set, the only thing that I saw was that you changed your mindset and strategy by going for too much (perhaps like MS style.)

Don't give up dude :twisted:
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Postby emate007 » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:45

Fun and informative post, highly recommended, would read again.

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Postby riley108 » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:12

sim tour rules all day long but at the same time i do enjoy an all out ms match but in comparison sim tour involves out thinking your opponent, out rallying your opponent waiting for his/her mistakes and pouncing on them put the risk slice aside then sim is like real tennis play,, creating your own angles to put your opponent off balance to win your point,, for instance i played AO match on ps3 last night against the ps3 num 1 in sim the match lasted 1hr 25 mins just because of the sheer quality of tennis some of our rallies were insane and the angles we both created from nothing were insane a real enjoyable match even though i lost 75 67 36 75 36,, all in all sim 50 times better than ms,,MACK2300 please dont be defeated before a match has finished or even started your morale will allready be down and you will then more than likely loose, be confident and allways try to outwit your opponent if 1 tactic does not work revert to another
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Postby emate007 » Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:27

Is your . key broken?
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