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Postby jwestbury661 » Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:27

what stats and what height and how to get to the net without be played a pass shot???
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Postby AMAZING ZIZOU » Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:35

If you wanna play a consistent S&V game, you need IMO at least 70 in serve, 70 in volley and 70 in speed. The three most important ingredients.
Then the hard thing is the first volley. You just need to practice because it's pretty hard if the retuns are correct. There is different tactics.
You can hold the button long before and release it or tap it at the last and right moment. It's a matter of timing mostly. Placement too, but mostly timing.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:10

Its difficult. Regardless of the opponent, the smallest bit of lag can make your player spasm and plain not hit the ball. in 90-40, everyones groundstrrokes create so much power and angle you need to have nearly perfect positioning at the net every time.

My SV player in 90-40 is

FH 75
BH 60
SV 90
RET 40
VOL 90
SPD 80
PWR 80
STA 45.

Some tips also, don't use a risk volley for your 1st volley after the serve, its not that accurate i find. and learn to serve with the stick, not so much for slices and topspin serves but for flat ones, you'l need the aces and free points. and good luck
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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:13

also, he is 6'3" and 180 lbs. If you are on ps3 i can give you some SV matches.
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Postby emate007 » Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:03

VillaJ100 wrote:Its difficult. Regardless of the opponent, the smallest bit of lag can make your player spasm and plain not hit the ball.

don't use a risk volley for your 1st volley after the serve, its not that accurate i find. and learn to serve with the stick, not so much for slices and topspin serves but for flat ones, you'l need the aces and free points. and good luck


Lag is indeed a big problem if you volley often. Timing can change dramatically from one point to the next. The only way to do it right takes HOURS of frustration to recognize certain nuances that give away speed/lag. Rob told me to watch the shadow, it helps a lot.

But I disagree with the 1st volley advice- unless you're using 80+ on volley, at least an LT risk volley is pretty much mandatory. I found that the best volley stat for ME was between 70-75. That way you have enough skill points left to not completely gimp your character from the baseline.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:49

ahh see i never use less than 85 on volley, makes sense though.
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Postby kyuuji » Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:24

I always use Serve & Volley, and my character is 188cm or the other one 192, I only have around 50 and 60 in volley but I'm pretty good.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:03

I'm nowhere near good enough to try any less than 80 volley. it would be nice to save some points somewhere though for sure.
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Postby xSupafly » Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:38

SV is the way forward
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Postby Baghdad Baghdatis » Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:06

I have learned how to S+V over the last 6 months, thanks to some coaching by the late 'Rob ITST' and practice practice practice.

Unfortunately I find S+V in 90/40 to be pretty pointless without further elaborating. One of the many reasons I do not play the tour.

However in SIM volleying is actually a fantastic asset. There are different school of opinions on what the actual 'volley' stat XP should be. Some say 70 is ample, Rob ITST (old site manager) had 80 volley and he was a S+V volley legend. Then you have some who want the full 90 stat.

As Zizou said, I am in agreement that serve, volley & speed are key, they need to work together to be "really" effective.

Now in SIM I use B Cannon full time in ITST tournies and he has 69 volley (so basically 70), has a good serve (86) and poor speed. I use S+V say 5 times during the match, no more than I would a drop shot, but its a great change of style to have in your game! If the speed was better I would S+V a bit more however against good returners in SIM with high XP returns (e.g. Gray, Naka) I don't have the speed to get to the net quick enough to regularly control the first volley.

Again like Zizou said its all about getting the first volley right. Once you have approached the net and struck the ball in a nice spot and you are then over the net I would say you have a 90% chance of winning the next point.

Rob always told me that the button you press on the first shot depends on the height of the return ball. If the ball is returned above waist height the B button (topspin) or A button (flat) is the higher percentage shot. On the flip side if the ball drop just over the net low to the feet then X button (slice) is a good approach - I 100% agree having practiced all of the above.

Also timing is key i.e. holding and releasing the button at the right time. I used to release too early and therefore I always spooned the shot, I soon learnt.

Serve Motion A is the best motion for it - don't let anyone tell you any different.

Once you have learnt the first volley and timing I find using LT in certain combinations to be nice mix up. A lot of players seem to think volleying is standing at the net and holding back on the stick + LT - this is NOT real volleying. It simply kills the ball dead and is unplayable in many cases - it is very effective for percentage play however. I like to play long with LT + X or B to push the ball to the baseline or my opponents feet.
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Postby xSupafly » Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:07

Baghdad SIMbad wrote:I have learned how to S+V over the last 6 months, thanks to some coaching by the late 'Rob ITST' and practice practice practice.

Unfortunately I find S+V in 90/40 to be pretty pointless without further elaborating. One of the many reasons I do not play the tour.

However in SIM volleying is actually a fantastic asset. There are different school of opinions on what the actual 'volley' stat XP should be. Some say 70 is ample, Rob ITST (old site manager) had 80 volley and he was a S+V volley legend. Then you have some who want the full 90 stat.

As Zizou said, I am in agreement that serve, volley & speed are key, they need to work together to be "really" effective.

Now in SIM I use B Cannon full time in ITST tournies and he has 69 volley (so basically 70), has a good serve (86) and poor speed. I use S+V say 5 times during the match, no more than I would a drop shot, but its a great change of style to have in your game! If the speed was better I would S+V a bit more however against good returners in SIM with high XP returns (e.g. Gray, Naka) I don't have the speed to get to the net quick enough to regularly control the first volley.

Again like Zizou said its all about getting the first volley right. Once you have approached the net and struck the ball in a nice spot and you are then over the net I would say you have a 90% chance of winning the next point.

Rob always told me that the button you press on the first shot depends on the height of the return ball. If the ball is returned above waist height the B button (topspin) or A button (flat) is the higher percentage shot. On the flip side if the ball drop just over the net low to the feet then X button (slice) is a good approach - I 100% agree having practiced all of the above.

Also timing is key i.e. holding and releasing the button at the right time. I used to release too early and therefore I always spooned the shot, I soon learnt.

Serve Motion A is the best motion for it - don't let anyone tell you any different.

Once you have learnt the first volley and timing I find using LT in certain combinations to be nice mix up. A lot of players seem to think volleying is standing at the net and holding back on the stick + LT - this is NOT real volleying. It simply kills the ball dead and is unplayable in many cases - it is very effective for percentage play however. I like to play long with LT + X or B to push the ball to the baseline or my opponents feet.


Couldn't have said it any better 8)
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Postby ~BeRnArD-ToMiC~ » Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:21

Is serve and volleying better with a two-handed backhand or a one handed ?
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Postby Baghdad Baghdatis » Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:40

._RaFaBuLl_. wrote:Is serve and volleying better with a two-handed backhand or a one handed ?


He Rafa,

To be honest, I am not too sure it makes a difference - although I am not best placed to answer that question.

I have only started S+V since I changed by serve motion to A and went to single handed backhand.

Give it a try :wink:
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Postby ~BeRnArD-ToMiC~ » Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:12

Baghdad SIMbad wrote:
._RaFaBuLl_. wrote:Is serve and volleying better with a two-handed backhand or a one handed ?


He Rafa,

To be honest, I am not too sure it makes a difference - although I am not best placed to answer that question.

I have only started S+V since I changed by serve motion to A and went to single handed backhand.

Give it a try :wink:
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