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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:23

To all players who play a lot at the net, or serve and volley,

have you noticed when playing on clay using striker but especially burns, you have more success with serve and volley? i played the same uy last night six times to try this out. he was using his own baseliner but only had 70 power, i used burns, and we played a few times before so know each others game well, two matches on grass at boston bay i won 6-3 6-7 6-2 and won 7-5 5-7 7-5. two hard court matches at pacific life, i won one 6-4 6-4 and lost the other 2-6 6-7, but on clay at casablanca i won 6-2 6-1 and 6-3 6-3! this needs much more play to determine, but i was surprised, i would have expected the results i got on clay to have got those on grass, maybe lower power and clay gives mroe time to get to the net, i dont know.

Anyone else noticed this, or just me? or coincidence?
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Re: Paradoxical

Postby djarvik » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:29

VillaJ100 wrote:To all players who play a lot at the net, or serve and volley,

have you noticed when playing on clay using striker but especially burns, you have more success with serve and volley? i played the same uy last night six times to try this out. he was using his own baseliner but only had 70 power, i used burns, and we played a few times before so know each others game well, two matches on grass at boston bay i won 6-3 6-7 6-2 and won 7-5 5-7 7-5. two hard court matches at pacific life, i won one 6-4 6-4 and lost the other 2-6 6-7, but on clay at casablanca i won 6-2 6-1 and 6-3 6-3! this needs much more play to determine, but i was surprised, i would have expected the results i got on clay to have got those on grass, maybe lower power and clay gives mroe time to get to the net, i dont know.

Anyone else noticed this, or just me? or coincidence?



Honestly, No.

The guy you were playing against doesn't know how to pass. On clay, I personally have more time to setup my passing shot.....so yeah, you have more time to get to the net, but I also have more time to execute a pass. Or even a Lob.

But as you said, it needs more testing. I'd be happy to test it with you over the weekend. :P
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Re: Paradoxical

Postby SoundfSilence » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:33

Did you serve and volley all points, or stay back with your trademark SV players? :lol:

I think coincidence, but worth more testing definately.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:40

DJ on the grass especially, he was rifling down the line winners, especially Fh's, like a inch over the tape, on clay they seemed to be drifting a little higher and slower and so easier to volley, i asked and he said he didnt use topspin just the usual; X button flat shot. I think this might only apply to sim, as he's just used roddick on me and it was 1-6 1-6 to him at barcelona :P

And no sound as it wasn't against ITST competition i SV'ed about 80% :P rather than getting scared and staying back hehe
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Postby TomBs » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:41

I know what you mean, and since it's possible to volley back r2+l2-bombs without any problems, it might well be the case. Now I must say I'm just absolutely crap at hitting passing shots...
But the 1st volley seems easier as you have more time to come to the net.
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Postby Rob ITST » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:51

Maybe it had more to do with power/speed than it did with baseline/net. The clay let Burns' speed become more of a factor, and took away some of the baseliner's power advantage.

I do think s&v is a little bit easier on clay though, for the same reason Tombs mentioned - you have more time to get into position for the first volley. Your opponent might have more time to run down your volley, but that's usually just a difference between him almost reaching the ball, and not even coming close to it.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:18

thats quite a good explation, the 1st volley is often the most important one
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Postby Pocho89 » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:59

i noticed this... :D
I think it happen because other people on clay cannot use all their power and so SV game is facilitated 8)
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Postby VillaJ100 » Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:42

Pocho89 wrote:i noticed this... :D
I think it happen because other people on clay cannot use all their power and so SV game is facilitated 8)


Are you still using striker pocho?
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Postby DarkPaladin87 » Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:51

I haven't played on clay at all this year, mosty hardcourt, so i can't really tell anything about it. I'll try playing a few games on clay this week to help test it out 8)
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