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Who will win?

1. Anteros15
4
24%
2. swifty512
2
12%
3. anOClife
1
6%
4. Tantsupalavik
6
35%
5. Mack2300
0
No votes
6. mr devilish
1
6%
7. picachu211
3
18%
8. djarvik
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 17

Postby djarvik » Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:26

Anteros and anOclife. Would you like to play doubles with me and my neighbor? I am training him in now, he is getting better, he will be my doubles partner next season, that is of course if we have a doubles tour. LOL

AnOclife, you improved VERY, VERY much. I played you not long ago, and lost, but it was a much closer game and I actually felt I shouldv'e won that match, lost my concentration as usual and gave it away, but I was in control most of the points. Our latest match was total opposite! I was not in any points and basically was holding on to my life, until you broke me..... it felt nothing like the score indicates, ny steady serve was the only thing keeping me in the game.
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Postby anOClife » Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:12

thank you, well we will not being playing on the doubles tour anymore but if I'm ever home we could try to set up a doubles match. We're not very good, volleying is hard for us.
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Postby NARCOSIS2009 » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:53

anOClife wrote:thank you, well we will not being playing on the doubles tour anymore but if I'm ever home we could try to set up a doubles match. We're not very good, volleying is hard for us.


It might help if u didnt have 90 stats on forehand, backhand, and power... or at least one of u have a decent volley skill.
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Postby Anteros15 » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:57

No offense Vodusam2k8, but I don't get what your deal with people having around 90 on forehand, backhand, and power is. When you played you played almost exclusively with risk, making it just as much if not more of a power game than everyone else.

And it's not necessarily a low volley stat that gives us the trouble. When we have our men's doubles our players have high volley stats but we still struggle with the timing on them. I am not totally sure when to release and stuff like that. Any tips?
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Postby NARCOSIS2009 » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:12

Anteros15 wrote:No offense Vodusam2k8, but I don't get what your deal with people having around 90 on forehand, backhand, and power is. When you played you played almost exclusively with risk, making it just as much if not more of a power game than everyone else.

And it's not necessarily a low volley stat that gives us the trouble. When we have our men's doubles our players have high volley stats but we still struggle with the timing on them. I am not totally sure when to release and stuff like that. Any tips?


I wasnt saying that i had a problem with it, just it might help if u both had a high volley, well at least one of u two had a high volley, like nimfrodil and i both have 90 on volley, amazing zizou has 90 on volley, and tomiltom (i think) has 40 or 50 on volley, its all to do with timing, HINT: risk volley :P, i find these much easier to time than normal volleys... :wink:
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Postby djarvik » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:36

Anteros15 wrote:No offense Vodusam2k8, but I don't get what your deal with people having around 90 on forehand, backhand, and power is. When you played you played almost exclusively with risk, making it just as much if not more of a power game than everyone else.

And it's not necessarily a low volley stat that gives us the trouble. When we have our men's doubles our players have high volley stats but we still struggle with the timing on them. I am not totally sure when to release and stuff like that. Any tips?


Volleying is much easier then you think, volleying well, is only possible by Rob. I have not seen anyone who can volley more effectively and control the ball oh oh oh so well. Rob, enlighten us! Since I plan to play doubles tour, I need to improve on volley as well. I can hit almost any volley, but placement, it is all another story, I know were I want the ball to go, but it just does not go there LOL

Anteros, I refuse to believe for a second then you struggling to hit volleys, with your timing and well polished game, it is just not believable. C'mon! You are just lazy and want to stay in your comfort zone! Explore dude! LOL

Even I can approach and volley with my 40 and hit a couple of them in a raw, I will end up getting passed, but I will hit a couple before that! So.... with 60 on volley, I should be doing great. And so should you. If you wish to practice, let me know and I will hit you some balls straight at you, so you can get the timing right. Just let me know!
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Postby Anteros15 » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:06

Well Djarvik, believe it. I do struggle hitting volleys. Like you, I can basically make it to the net and hit the volley, but I can't get any control over it.
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Postby djarvik » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:32

Anteros15 wrote:Well Djarvik, believe it. I do struggle hitting volleys. Like you, I can basically make it to the net and hit the volley, but I can't get any control over it.


Alright you convinced me. :lol:
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Postby Rob ITST » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:17

A couple of things about volleys. I'll only talk about volleying after approach shots and in doubles. S&V is different, so I won't go into that.

First, there's this:

djarvik wrote:Even I can approach and volley with my 40 and hit a couple of them in a raw, I will end up getting passed, but I will hit a couple before that!


The last thing you want to do after an approach shot is hit a couple volleys in a row, especially if you only have 40 on volley. You want to hit one volley, otherwise you will get passed. If you have your opponent way out of position, then any volley should do, but if not, you need to use some sort of risk (LT, RT, LT+RT).

Timing is important, but what's probably most important is what type of volley you hit. Depending on where you will be when you hit it, and how high the ball is, you want to use either A or X. Basically, you use X for low volleys and A for high volleys. Almost always use A if you are close to the net. B is almost useless, except for certain volleys in doubles.

For the timing, one thing to keep in mind is that you cannot charge up a volley. You want to just tap the button.

For aiming, you have to learn when to aim - and it just takes practice. Doubles is good for learning this, since sometimes you want to volley straight up the middle. If you aim up the middle, and it goes to one side, then you didn't aim at the right time.
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Postby djarvik » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:55

Thanks, I will try that!
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Postby picachu211 » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:29

djarvik wrote:
Are you sure you getting one? :wink: :wink:

Buaaahhhh! LOL


I've got two! In your face!
I can't believe I am qualified after I lost my 1st match.
If three people finish with 2-1, H2H does not decide who qualify, right?
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Postby Sherlock 117 » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:33

Straight from the tournament page Picachu:

- The final standings of each group shall be determined by the first of the following methods that apply:
a) Greatest number of wins.
b) Greatest number of matches played.
c) Head-to-head results if two players are tied.


Of course if three players are tied, it will be true that their head-to-head against each other will be 1-1, so more tiebreakers need to be used. I believe the next tiebreaker is sets won/lost, followed by games won/lost.
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Postby djarvik » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:34

picachu211 wrote:
djarvik wrote:
Are you sure you getting one? :wink: :wink:

Buaaahhhh! LOL


I've got two! In your face!
I can't believe I am qualified after I lost my 1st match.
If three people finish with 2-1, H2H does not decide who qualify, right?


you know I was joking right? LOL

Congrats!
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Postby picachu211 » Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:38

And one more question, we don't get extra points for qualifying for the semis, we just earn a chance to add more points? Thanks Sherlock!
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Postby Rob ITST » Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:29

You get points for every match you win. So in that sense, yes, you do get points for qualifying for the semis.
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