Losing the motivation....

[Moralspain]

Yeah we have different styles overhere, i can play great matches against Djarvik or Picachu (great match yesterday, nice rallies and plays, thanks man)...but it´s impossible to do anything against Murda or Putu (yesterday i quit against him, i explained you why, i couldn´t touch a single ball ), that said...as far as all that guys play fair i´m fine, so anything to say, just pointing that out,we have different styles at ITST and that´s a good thing in my opinion.
I´d be like Murray and Putu for example would like Del Potro.( not for the ranking though )

[Puttu puttuu]

Rae next time we can play a 40-90 match with no RT's no problem . I understand your point and am fully willing to compromise.

[Puttu puttuu]

same goes for Moralspain > you can ask Kebab i can play without Rt's and still pull a great match . So again next time we play i'll be Murray and you can be Gilles Simon or something

[ANILTJE]

@Anil - thanks for the suggestion, I will try the links and defo give DMT a go. I am a massive tennis fan (not just a TS3 player) and have played tennis game since I was in nappies - Super Tennis (super nintendo) used to be good back in 1990! Then Jimmy Connors tennis was pretty sweet and realistic in the mid 90's. I know you mentioned it before and we said that as I had an apple imac DMT wouldn't work - hopefully the links will work. My only reservation like Djarvik said is that I aint a great fan of playing games on my PC, i like being sat in front of my tele with the joypad in toe - again there may be the possibilty of hooking it up to TV.

Yeah do so. I hope you can get it running . I think it will.

[Moralspain]

same goes for Moralspain > you can ask Kebab i can play without Rt's and still pull a great match . So again next time we play i'll be Murray and you can be Gilles Simon or something

there´s no need to do that, you play your style and i play mine, i would like to use RT same as you do, but i´ve got no skills.

[Puttu puttuu]

nah i can play both styles... just played a match against Kebab , just about won 3-6 6-3 7-6. I read rae's post just before , and i said myself i don't want to be labeled as this big risking freak, i wasnt before . So i decided not to hit any Rt's in the rally , just risking with Lt's > okay i will grant it was hard to finish the point , but we still had some amazing rallies . IF PEOPLE WANT RALLIES I LL GIVE THEM RALLIES !!!!!! MUAHAHHAHAHA

[ANILTJE]

I understand the frustration with risking.

Actually risking has been wrong in all TS series. The idea is right but the way they made it isn't.

As you have no control of where you actually place the ball when risking or not risking you press the rt-lt buttons and the ball will go hard on the line or close everytime. and the same with LT. It's not by perfect timing like in DMT but by just hitting the buttons.

BUT... there is a big but....

When not risking in TS3 you get another problem.

I played Anteros once. We played a match where I lost 7-6 7-6 and he doesnt hit much risk. Or nothing at all. Besides returns.
In that match he had 4 unforced errors.
Now that doesn't seem right at all.
In a match like that there should be way more unforced errors then 4.

The problem with the normal shots is . They DON'T go out unless you hit the ball too late.
You can only hit a bad shot in TS3 but not hit a shot too early. Which makes the matches unrealistic as well. So you actually almost only hit forced errors .

That's why 100 setups are also so popular in TS3 cause you can just hit perfect shots with a big 100 setup. They don't go out so the only thing you can do wrong is hit a weak shot or a get a forced error.

I enjoy playing people who hit risk a lot because you can get people to hit an unforced error.
It feels closer to tennis and closer how DMT works.
But the only problem as stated before is that risk and all other shots just work by push a button and it will just land on the line no problem.

The serves with buttons are pretty wrong as you almost hit the same spot over and over.

The stick serve is way more realistic in that way. The button shots are actually not working either in my opinion.

They should just have made TS3 only function by the right stick.And make sure you have more control over the placement of the shots by perfect timing.

I understand that no risk matches are more fun because it doesn't feel like such a rape of tennis. But no risking is also not the solution in my opinion either?

[Moralspain]

excuse my ignorance but what does "MUUUUHAHAHAHAHA" mean?

[ANILTJE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7edeOEuXdMU

[Coolhand Texas]

yea not using rt is not going to solve anything

[jayl0ve]

It's a moot point; there is no way to tell if somebody is using RT/LT shots and it is ridiculous to expect people to comply with some 'honor system'. There's nothing wrong with risk shots, it's only natural that somebody/many people would practice them to the point where they are going to go in 90% of the time...this is a video game

[picachu211]

same goes for Moralspain > you can ask Kebab i can play without Rt's and still pull a great match . So again next time we play i'll be Murray and you can be Gilles Simon or something

Nicely put!

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

to be honest i´m also tired to play TS3 ,that i play TS2 from time to time .

i´m short before to stopp playing TS3 . it simply bored me

[Baghdad Baghdatis]

Puttuu, you do not need to explain yourself on here or adapt your game from what other people may say - you are, in my opinion, of the best folk both on and off the court (console ). Yes our match before was great fun, thanks. I think me and thee are the same standard now, which is cool, I was getting sick and tired of beating you all the time - a few months ago I was egging you on towards the end to break me and take the win - but these days the matches, can and do go either way, its a real fun rivalry now

Still hit RTs if you like, play how you want to play - I know I hit the occasional RT + LT (mainly just LT) usually to try and kill off a long rally for a grand finale or cross court with LT + B! But hey, thats my game.

I think my original post was trying to say that mindless / constant risking on 95% - 100% of the play including returns is what ruins the game. The odd bit of risk is fun, both myself, xavi (moral) etc will risk at times - nothing wrong with that at all.

To me players who risk on EVERY SHOT is just as bad as those weird players on the world tour who play a drop shot on near enough every point - has anyone ever played against these guys? Very weird and annoying

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

in my opinion the fun got destroyed because you can´t play powerrallies than it is in ts2 . the good ts2 player in past know what i mean!!
i played ts2 for 2 years daily - coz it is awesome fun to play.
it was tennis plus fun
ts3 is only tennis -without fun.
ts3 bored me first time after 3 month playing

at all i think i play TS3 only so long cause itst exist .
without itst i bash my raquet in the trash ton directly after a month