Your opinion about risk slice return inside the baseline?

[Agassi_Return]

I have not seen anyone in our community serve like that yet. OK, maybe one.

But believe me it is possible. With 80-90 pts service it is very easy.

We are supposed to compete like real players.

Yeah but for most players in ITST is to win more important than playing like real players. Because the game IS unrealistic!

Again, you can still hold serve and potentially win the tiebreakers with your opponent serves bombs on the line, but it is impossible to win when your opponent returns like that, period.

You can avoid or "return" these risk return slices. Look i using these slices in every game and if the opponent try the same risk return slices he have no chance because i know how to "return" these risk return slices and how to serve to make the opponent difficult to play these return slices. Its all about training....and speed .

[lucagiaco]

Completly not fair.I hate this.

[Squilari]

the poll speaks by itself

[picachu211]

the poll speaks by itself

[Moralspain]

I´m completely lost with this game. , can someone post a list with the illegal shots?, well on second thought don´t do that because you would need 2 pages ( ironic mode on)
Don´t worry, as time passes all that ""cheaters""( I don´t know how to call them because, to be honest, they don´t do anything wrong, they just don´t play a realistic tennis) will disapear, so patience







Rafa:The best El millor jugador del planeta terra.

[Rob ITST]

´m completely lost with this game. , can someone post a list with the illegal shots?

I doubt you need to worry buddy. The fact that you even care tells me you probably play fairly.

There are no 'illegal shots', but as you and most people know, the ITST is about playing fairly. There is usually no need to ban shots, since most players are here to play without cheese.

Look i using these slices in every game

I suggest you listen to what your fellow players are saying. You are the only one defending this tactic.

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

i dont return so myselef(i return mostly rt+lt+a b ) but i cant believe this is a thema here .because when someone can do this return permanently well, its your own fault ,you must only change serve.than it not work so easily.than also its a joke to call this return "uncorrect"!!Thats unbelieveble.every nice strong possible shoot where bring you out of your own playing system next day called cheese .find answers.to bring your serve to break-and your own serve home-thats legal- I SEE NO REALLY UNFAIR SHOOTS (IN MOMENT) WHERE IT GIVE NO ANSWER- a lot of people dont know in moment what is now cheese and what not- by the way ,no banned shoots by itst ----so nothing is cheese-

[Agassi_Return]

I suggest you listen to what your fellow players are saying. You are the only one defending this tactic.

Fair 10% [ 2 ]



I have no problem with my opinion about the cheesy risk slice return and the cheesy services. I think some users here need to play against good serving players,who serve every ball on the line with 140 mph, to see how cheesy services can be.

@callofduty44

SEE NO REALLY UNFAIR SHOOTS (IN MOMENT) WHERE IT GIVE NO ANSWER

agree

[picachu211]

Are you two guys having fun play the game like that?
The time for a set of real tennis match is at least 30 minutes, in the game it is probably 15 minutes. But I finished my match (two 3-game sets) in 5 minutes. There was no rally, which is the most interesting part of the game. For me, the idea that you can construct a point, move your opponent around, find an opening and hit a winner or force a error, thrills me.

[Squilari]

Are you two guys having fun play the game like that?
The time for a set of real tennis match is at least 30 minutes, in the game it is probably 15 minutes. But I finished my match (two 3-game sets) in 5 minutes. There was no rally, which is the most interesting part of the game. For me, the idea that you can construct a point, move your opponent around, find an opening and hit a winner or force a error, thrills me.

Trying to make all the people think the same way about this subjest is useless,mate. There always will be different opinions. In this case the poll shows very very few guys defending a tactic which most of us consider cheesy. 90% against 10% . I think it is enough for having a fair tour.

[jayl0ve]

every shot has it's purpose...for example, if you were to take away the 'cheesy wide slice serve', there would be basically no way to combat people who stand very far behind the baseline to return serve. There's a fine line between 'using' and 'abusing' shots, of course, but if someone is 'abusing' a shot, that probably means you have no idea how to adapt, and you probably deserve to lose anyways. Nobody listens to me though...go ahead and ban everything, I don't give a shit.

[GerryColins]

every shot has it's purpose...for example, if you were to take away the 'cheesy wide slice serve', there would be basically no way to combat people who stand very far behind the baseline to return serve. There's a fine line between 'using' and 'abusing' shots, of course, but if someone is 'abusing' a shot, that probably means you have no idea how to adapt, and you probably deserve to lose anyways. Nobody listens to me though...go ahead and ban everything, I don't give a shit.

For me the problem seems to be that 'fair play' is based on opinion and therefore there are always going to be differences. I have not played this game long enough to see any serious problems with any one particular shot, and if every shot has a tactic that can counter it then it removes the ability to exploit. If you ban some shots then others will be easily exploitable, and so you upset the whole balance of the game. But if you ban none then there will just be lots of arguing over who played fair and who didn't, without any real ability to control who actually was fair or not. A tough balancing act if you ask me.

[Digitalboyy]

i dont see the difference between the return slice serve and the just the regular risk return serve, both of them are unrealistic and you have to deal with them both equally, its crazy how they return 135-140mph serves just as fast as they come back to you, but i guess you just gotta suck it up and deal with it, because even on here, having a good serve or even a powerful shot means nothing to the guys in the top 10 men and women who use risk shots like its second nature, sometimes you gotta wonder whats the use of even playing in tournaments when you already know whos gonna win..............certainly not the people who dont use risk shots

[Rob ITST]

having a good serve or even a powerful shot means nothing to the guys in the top 10 men and women who use risk shots like its second nature

There are ways to make regular risk returns extremely difficult, especially if you have a high serve stat. I can show you how if you like.

[Pogagna]

i dont see the difference between the return slice serve and the just the regular risk return serve, both of them are unrealistic and you have to deal with them both equally, its crazy how they return 135-140mph serves just as fast as they come back to you, but i guess you just gotta suck it up and deal with it, because even on here, having a good serve or even a powerful shot means nothing to the guys in the top 10 men and women who use risk shots like its second nature, sometimes you gotta wonder whats the use of even playing in tournaments when you already know whos gonna win..............certainly not the people who dont use risk shots

i have to disagree, i never used a riskshot in an itst match. well...actually i did it last match...and i lost it after like 20 cons wins
and yeah..i have 2 admit i'll have 2 use'em in the future, my risk-free play becomes every day less effective, 'cause people is learning to risk even when they're in the bathroom, and things starts becoming tricky...and rallies, with constant risk returns, are going to 0...