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Postby maximo » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:51

tennis is exchanges, but top spin is a video game, u should understand it, anyway, if u risk u will make errors and if your rival can risk all your services is because your service is a shit.
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Postby RV_Cobra11 » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:53

so your saying my serve is crap against nitoflament? :lol:
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Postby maximo » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 05:12

RV_Cobra11 wrote:so your saying my serve is crap against nitoflament? :lol:

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Postby DRII » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 06:32

Just realize; those who know and choose to exploit TS3's very fallible system of risk will use it to their advantage no matter how unrealistic it is or how boring it makes the game...

Particularly RT or R1 power risk. But ball bashing can work in real tennis; just ask Serena Williams 2010 Wimbledon champion.
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Postby Otlichno » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 07:46

DRII wrote:Just realize; those who know and choose to exploit TS3's very fallible system of risk will use it to their advantage no matter how unrealistic it is or how boring it makes the game...

Particularly RT or R1 power risk. But ball bashing can work in real tennis; just ask Serena Williams 2010 Wimbledon champion.


Wrong, Wrong and Wronger. The risk system has yet to be perfected in a TS3 game but in actuality it's very real in that the higher risk you're shot the better that shot will come out. It does not make the game unrealistic or boring if you get bullied off court by heavy heavy riskers than make some adjustments, don't try to outhit them, add some variety and don't just give them hard shots with allot of pace, even in real tennis if you give someone with higher firepower pace they will probably use it to their advantage.

Ballbashing is modern tennis, if you see any successful up and coming player in the ATP or more commonly in the WTA, they ballbash but if you think Serena is simply a ballbasher than you ought to watch more of her matches, I hate her but I do know that people don't give her enough credit.
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Postby fedfan » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 12:10

I just played Fraval with these settings and it equalled fail. If you still play with a 4x90 setup, in which case you can still clober the ball easily, if your 90 strokes still allow you to hit short cross court angles time after time and if you play with no variety an unenforcable rule change is not going to make the game more interesting.

By the way I won in 3. There are already great matches to be had, you just need to know how to play.
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Postby DRII » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:57

Otlichno wrote:
DRII wrote:Just realize; those who know and choose to exploit TS3's very fallible system of risk will use it to their advantage no matter how unrealistic it is or how boring it makes the game...

Particularly RT or R1 power risk. But ball bashing can work in real tennis; just ask Serena Williams 2010 Wimbledon champion.


Wrong, Wrong and Wronger. The risk system has yet to be perfected in a TS3 game but in actuality it's very real in that the higher risk you're shot the better that shot will come out. It does not make the game unrealistic or boring if you get bullied off court by heavy heavy riskers than make some adjustments, don't try to outhit them, add some variety and don't just give them hard shots with allot of pace, even in real tennis if you give someone with higher firepower pace they will probably use it to their advantage.

Ballbashing is modern tennis, if you see any successful up and coming player in the ATP or more commonly in the WTA, they ballbash but if you think Serena is simply a ballbasher than you ought to watch more of her matches, I hate her but I do know that people don't give her enough credit.


Did I say she was simply a ballbasher? NO. But clearly the biggest differential in this years women's 'boring' final was power and she was bashing the ball along with her great serve and punishing return.

And it may be real as you put it that the higher you risk the better the shot can be, however the very exploitable flaws in TS3's risk system make it anything but very real for those that can and do take advantage of it. We have players who literally risk with power or placement or both 100% of the time and make 90% or more of their shots in; this is not 'very real'. 90% by definition is not risky! And it is very possible to make errors without using risk.

The concept of risk is very real and should be utilized. But TS3's execution of it is lacking IMO. I personally feel 2k2's grand slam tennis had a better risk system or even Mario tennis for N64.

In the end TS3 is a very good tennis game overall and nearly every shot is counterable but the game, and how certain players choose to play it, is not beyond reproach or criticism.

Which I have found out using slice!
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 15:09

No one makes 90% risk shots against me, not even close.

It seems like you simply mad because you can't risk yourself.

And with all due respect, you should not be talking about exploiting anything man, you short slice after most serves and that is the pinnacle of exploiting.

Besides, you can win with no risk, even dominate. You simply isn't good enough. Anteros, Coolhand, Joesixtoe, Lobamer, Brgerflipper, TOMO ....list goes on.

I agree with you about risk shots being relatively easy to pull off, but dude, first try, risk me of the court with Makng 90% risks in, then make the stateman.

There is a lot of wrong with TS3, risk is just one small part, there are far bigger things.

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Postby jayl0ve » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 15:14

If somebody's making 90% of all attempted risk shots, they deserve to be making 90% of all attempted risk shots. It's not easy.
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Postby Andymachine » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:40

DRII wrote:Just realize; those who know and choose to exploit TS3's very fallible system of risk will use it to their advantage no matter how unrealistic it is or how boring it makes the game...

Particularly RT or R1 power risk. But ball bashing can work in real tennis; just ask Serena Williams 2010 Wimbledon champion.


Not too mention, the fallible system of risk slice , or did you not notice that yet , besides risk is very hard to pull off and requires very good timing
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Postby DRII » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:05

djarvik wrote:No one makes 90% risk shots against me, not even close.

It seems like you simply mad because you can't risk yourself.

And with all due respect, you should not be talking about exploiting anything man, you short slice after most serves and that is the pinnacle of exploiting.

Besides, you can win with no risk, even dominate. You simply isn't good enough. Anteros, Coolhand, Joesixtoe, Lobamer, Brgerflipper, TOMO ....list goes on.

I agree with you about risk shots being relatively easy to pull off, but dude, first try, risk me of the court with Makng 90% risks in, then make the stateman.

There is a lot of wrong with TS3, risk is just one small part, there are far bigger things.

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Can u try and realize that everything is not about u! If anyone is angry its u judging by your defensive and sometime insulting rants towards any point of view u don't share. I am simply stating my objections with TS3's risk system and its exploitable nature (and since I was not the one who started this thread it seems others agree). If someone can risk all the time and choose to do so that's their prerogative and its my prerogative to criticize it: point blank. And how could I risk u 90% of the time when I don't risk at all, again this discussion is not purely about you! Also I started slicing to try and counter risk returners and have received criticism for it as I mentioned.

I respect if not agree with your opinions, how about u try and respect others...
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Postby RV_Cobra11 » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:10

no offence but even in our sim match that i won, after the match i felt like cursing you off but i kept it in, i'm expecting that coke never kept it in? :lol: but consistent risk slice after serve is stupid, etc.... so can u just change your playing style to fit itst?

Cobra out :D
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Postby DRII » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:12

Andymachine wrote:
DRII wrote:Just realize; those who know and choose to exploit TS3's very fallible system of risk will use it to their advantage no matter how unrealistic it is or how boring it makes the game...

Particularly RT or R1 power risk. But ball bashing can work in real tennis; just ask Serena Williams 2010 Wimbledon champion.


Not too mention, the fallible system of risk slice , or did you not notice that yet , besides risk is very hard to pull off and requires very good timing


Well I don't risk slice only normal slice if that's what your getting at. But yes slice has certainly been criticized a lot.
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Postby DRII » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:28

RV_Cobra11 wrote:no offence but even in our sim match that i won, after the match i felt like cursing you off but i kept it in, i'm expecting that coke never kept it in? :lol: but consistent risk slice after serve is stupid, etc.... so can u just change your playing style to fit itst?

Cobra out :D


Et Tu Cobra? Again I don't risk slice. But I'll make u a deal u don't risk return and I won't slice after serve. Which BTW I don't do consistently, I just try to mix it up. And what is this to 'fit itst'? The group think among some can be a little disturbing.

Since you're barely a teenager I wont go further...
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Postby Andymachine » Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:30

I also think its very important not to take this game too seriously
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