risk returns or risk slice, which is cheesier?

[tonedawg1]

Well, you made a suggestion so did I. Don't get all puffy about it now.

Thanks for the FYI, But I didn't ask for a lesson in English. If I don't express myself clear enough is because English is my 3rd language, sorry...sometimes I come across wrong.

The reason I assumed you don't play tennis in real life is because of what you wrote and also for the same reason you assumed I don't watch tennis on TV. Nothing more. How long do you play? Competitively? Just curious.

I think you will find that many other members share my outlook on this one.

Once again, you confuse pure skill with what game does for you. Game (TS3) makes you Aggassi, while in reality he is one of the kind.

As to your REAL question: Risk slices are by far cheesier. In fact, risk returning is not cheesy at all.

djarvik hes saying risk shot are chessy because u cant return them when they make it thats where hes getting at so once u make it u win the point .. Well i think they are returnable u just need good movement to get it back. i dont think he likes ur opinion btw LOL it comes off offensive you like to get even with people LOL so it comes off a little harsh at times idk i think at times u take it personal u defend the Tennis then take it personal .. maybe . im just a little kid giving out thoughts SO dont bulley me lol jk

[coke4]

Hey guys i think its time for a Moose Party...

[DRII]

Well, you made a suggestion so did I. Don't get all puffy about it now.

Thanks for the FYI, But I didn't ask for a lesson in English. If I don't express myself clear enough is because English is my 3rd language, sorry...sometimes I come across wrong.

The reason I assumed you don't play tennis in real life is because of what you wrote and also for the same reason you assumed I don't watch tennis on TV. Nothing more. How long do you play? Competitively? Just curious.

I think you will find that many other members share my outlook on this one.

Once again, you confuse pure skill with what game does for you. Game (TS3) makes you Aggassi, while in reality he is one of the kind.

As to your REAL question: Risk slices are by far cheesier. In fact, risk returning is not cheesy at all.

Its cool djarvik, i guess there was some 'loss in translation' going on.

I have been playing competitive league tennis for 1 1/2 yrs and am a 4.0. I've been playing recreationally since college (about 8 years off and on).

To me high risk returning is far less realistic. Some itst players go for risk on every return and make the majority of them in - which by definition makes it not risky...

[djarvik]

tonedawg1

I just like arguing..... about anything.

One of the many ways to be efficient in an argument is to get personal

I do however love tennis, I am a tennis freak, all my life. I'd like to think I know a bit more then an average guy (see, this is were I get a bit personal to get a response) and LOVE to discuss, chew all and everything tennis.


Deep down inside thou, I couldn't care less

[SoundfSilence]

To the original question:

Risk Return - In my view, not cheesy... The players who pull this off at high % have excellent timing, but more importantly, they are anticipating / predicting where the serve is going correctly and hence get into position / timing to hit Risk Return Winners. This is hard to pull off consistenly in TS3, against servers who mix it up.

Risk Slice - In my view, yes, there are far too easy to execute. Long Risk slices are fine to me, but still, very hard to counter. Short Risk Slice is pure cheese. The worse of all is Short Risk Slice after serve. This is cheesy, because you can repeat this over and over, without much diffculty. (Whereas, to repeat successful risk returns over and over, is very difficult.. and that is why you don't see WT people do it successfully).

[tonedawg1]

tonedawg1

I just like arguing..... about anything.

One of the many ways to be efficient in an argument is to get personal

I do however love tennis, I am a tennis freak, all my life. I'd like to think I know a bit more then an average guy (see, this is were I get a bit personal to get a response) and LOVE to discuss, chew all and everything tennis.


Deep down inside thou, I couldn't care less

LOl your weird but still cool , so how do we know when your serious ? lol

[djarvik]

Well, you made a suggestion so did I. Don't get all puffy about it now.

Thanks for the FYI, But I didn't ask for a lesson in English. If I don't express myself clear enough is because English is my 3rd language, sorry...sometimes I come across wrong.

The reason I assumed you don't play tennis in real life is because of what you wrote and also for the same reason you assumed I don't watch tennis on TV. Nothing more. How long do you play? Competitively? Just curious.

I think you will find that many other members share my outlook on this one.

Once again, you confuse pure skill with what game does for you. Game (TS3) makes you Aggassi, while in reality he is one of the kind.

As to your REAL question: Risk slices are by far cheesier. In fact, risk returning is not cheesy at all.

Its cool djarvik, i guess there was some 'loss in translation' going on.

I have been playing competitive league tennis for 1 1/2 yrs and am a 4.0. I've been playing recreationally since college (about 8 years off and on).

To me high risk returning is far less realistic. Some itst players go for risk on every return and make the majority of them in - which by definition makes it not risky...

Yeah, thats cool man! I think we never played before? did we? Add me on...lets play.

Don't take my Forum passions too seriously

Great to hear that you actually do play tennis competitively. Same here. Been playing 17 years now. Coaching for 13. Still cant get enough tennis!

[tonedawg1]

Well, you made a suggestion so did I. Don't get all puffy about it now.

Thanks for the FYI, But I didn't ask for a lesson in English. If I don't express myself clear enough is because English is my 3rd language, sorry...sometimes I come across wrong.

The reason I assumed you don't play tennis in real life is because of what you wrote and also for the same reason you assumed I don't watch tennis on TV. Nothing more. How long do you play? Competitively? Just curious.

I think you will find that many other members share my outlook on this one.

Once again, you confuse pure skill with what game does for you. Game (TS3) makes you Aggassi, while in reality he is one of the kind.

As to your REAL question: Risk slices are by far cheesier. In fact, risk returning is not cheesy at all.

Its cool djarvik, i guess there was some 'loss in translation' going on.

I have been playing competitive league tennis for 1 1/2 yrs and am a 4.0. I've been playing recreationally since college (about 8 years off and on).

To me high risk returning is far less realistic. Some itst players go for risk on every return and make the majority of them in - which by definition makes it not risky...

Yeah, thats cool man! I think we never played before? did we? Add me on...lets play.

Don't take my Forum passions too seriously

Great to hear that you actually do play tennis competitively. Same here. Been playing 17 years now. Coaching for 13. Still cant get enough tennis!

well whats your tennis level since your a coach 1.0-7.0? dpending on your level i might hire you as my topspin 3 coach currently alex is my coach LOLOLOLOL jk... or not.

[djarvik]

tonedawg1

I just like arguing..... about anything.

One of the many ways to be efficient in an argument is to get personal

I do however love tennis, I am a tennis freak, all my life. I'd like to think I know a bit more then an average guy (see, this is were I get a bit personal to get a response) and LOVE to discuss, chew all and everything tennis.


Deep down inside thou, I couldn't care less

LOl your weird but still cool , so how do we know when your serious ? lol

You don't. Thats the fun part

It's safe to say, the whole "ITST Virtual tour" for mer is just that. I enjoy this kinda "role playing", I think it is much more healthier then any other role playing. It promotes commitment, competitiveness among many other qualities. I would love for my kids to be involved in ITST, rather then Facebooking, tweetering and other garbage.

I also enjoy my real life very much. Especially the tennis.

[DRII]

I completely disagree, if anything, TS3 doesn't allow enough risks and THAT is what makes it unrealistic.

There is nothing realistic in hitting safe shots.....absolutely nothing.

Problem is, the risk is easy to hit in TS3...it should be harder.

No shot should be safe. No such thing in tennis. Every shot has an element of risk. Some more some less.

As for returns. Once again, if your opponent consistently hits WINNERS of your serve, your serve needs improvement. It is that simple.

In fact, in SIM, I rarely see the return winners. With reduced power and strokes, it is much easier to get to that "punishing" risk return, and start of the rally.....granted - on defense.....but never the less, a rally. From here your can work your way into the point.

I strongly suggest you take a look at your serve. It is almost certainly your problem.

i agree LOL some people are just better risker's than others and some are better serves than others, all u need to do is mix up your serve. i can "feel" when my opponent is going out wide on deuce lol but on the add side its a mystery i usually trail "moving with the risk shot to hit it" . except lefties always a mystery Well drii serves pretty good but he reduces the accuracy on the second serve is why they risk off it a ton lol like his first serve is on the line and if he misses his second serve will be right there if ur going to do that use the stick and hit a kick serve or regular flat, a 120 mph second serve right to the guy is asking for a risk they feel the adrenalin and smack the crap out of the ball, i think if u keep ur 2nd serve like ur first serve you will have no problem because u rally great and return great all u need is serve, id rather serve great and return poorly any day

Naw Dawg. My only strength is my ground game, it still could be better if I used risk. I don't consider my serve or return to be weapons. I basically want to just get the rally started on neutral terms and I feel I have a good chance to win the point if or until my player gets tired.

I tried using the stick to serve but I basically am not comfortable with it (yet).

I also am trying to incorporate some variety like slice (non-risk) to take better advantage of the short court. I did this recently and a particular player got really upset that I was not as predictable, thus not allowing him to win in a really close tie-breaker like usual .

[DRII]

Djarvik,

I'll be online in like 5 minutes if you want to do a practice set ...

[djarvik]

Well, you made a suggestion so did I. Don't get all puffy about it now.

Thanks for the FYI, But I didn't ask for a lesson in English. If I don't express myself clear enough is because English is my 3rd language, sorry...sometimes I come across wrong.

The reason I assumed you don't play tennis in real life is because of what you wrote and also for the same reason you assumed I don't watch tennis on TV. Nothing more. How long do you play? Competitively? Just curious.

I think you will find that many other members share my outlook on this one.

Once again, you confuse pure skill with what game does for you. Game (TS3) makes you Aggassi, while in reality he is one of the kind.

As to your REAL question: Risk slices are by far cheesier. In fact, risk returning is not cheesy at all.

Its cool djarvik, i guess there was some 'loss in translation' going on.

I have been playing competitive league tennis for 1 1/2 yrs and am a 4.0. I've been playing recreationally since college (about 8 years off and on).

To me high risk returning is far less realistic. Some itst players go for risk on every return and make the majority of them in - which by definition makes it not risky...

Yeah, thats cool man! I think we never played before? did we? Add me on...lets play.

Don't take my Forum passions too seriously

Great to hear that you actually do play tennis competitively. Same here. Been playing 17 years now. Coaching for 13. Still cant get enough tennis!

well whats your tennis level since your a coach 1.0-7.0? dpending on your level i might hire you as my topspin 3 coach currently alex is my coach LOLOLOLOL jk... or not.

I trained in Israel. They don't go by this system.

If going by this (from reading):
http://tennisclub.gsfc.nasa.gov/tennis.ratings.html

6.0-6.5

Trouble is I am not young anymore, I have a torn ligament in my right knee and I usually play with people that are 4.0 4.5 so that all degrates my tennis But I can't say no to my wife She is the one I play the most with.

I still think I can take a 5.0 apart

In TS3 skills - I am a solid 7.0...I definitely make a living playing ITST tourneys

[djarvik]

Djarvik,

I'll be online in like 5 minutes if you want to do a practice set ...

I am at work now, leaving in 30 minutes. Should be home in 1 hour. If you still on - lets play!

[coke4]

I trained in Israel. They don't go by this system.

If going by this (from reading):
http://tennisclub.gsfc.nasa.gov/tennis.ratings.html

6.0-6.5

Trouble is I am not young anymore, I have a torn ligament in my right knee and I usually play with people that are 4.0 4.5 so that all degrates my tennis But I can't say no to my wife She is the one I play the most with.

I still think I can take a 5.0 apart

In TS3 skills - I am a solid 7.0...I definitely make a living playing ITST tourneys

Argghh i hate this point thing lol.
My forehand would be like a 5.0-5.5 level
My backhand would be like a 4.0 level
My return would be like a 6.0 level
My movement would be like 6.5's level (i am incredibly quick)
My volleys would be 3.5's level
My serve would be like a 2.5's level lol
all in all im am around a 3.5, if my serve was better i would be higer tho

[emate007]

Hey guys i think its time for a Moose Party...

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