Am i cheesy or dont respect the rules?

[Andymachine]

p.s but to say someone uses too many drop shots is just silly , and should be encouraged a bit more in this game i think lol

[ILuvBillVal]

i have no problem with it because its easy to counter and it depends how much times the player does it

Serve+Short Slice is the most difficult thing to counter and the easiest thing to pull off

Amen.

[marlonbrando91]

Nah, its fine if Marlon wants to bring it to the forum, I have no problem with that. All our PM exchanges were respectful of each other and I assume we can keep it this way on the forum.


We do have great matches and rallies, a lot. But, when you are down a break point on your serve - you do one of the following, wide serve, followed by a risk short slice to the opposite corner...sometime it is a mid court risk slice. If I manage to get to these balls, you then employ drop shots.....many....many of them. After serve as well.




One more thing that you do, is step over the line on returns. Not before but after return. You stand so close to the line that after you pull of a risk return you end up stepping over the line. Its not a biggie....but yet another annoyance.

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Double not truth.

First, i have never hit a risk slice to opposite corner after serve on bp.Not truth.

On one side i try to hit cross court forehand, and the other i hit a backhand return shot.

Second, i dont walk on baseline on return, and above all in this match we played i was 2 or 3 meters behind him, as i suggest me previously.

I think im really good player and you too.I hit cross court quality like you.Shots with no pace,who s caracteristic of real tennis, and risk shots.

I dont understand because on this points you show, its not true.Simply.

[RV_Cobra11]

i have no problem with it because its easy to counter and it depends how much times the player does it

Serve+Short Slice is the most difficult thing to counter and the easiest thing to pull off

in that case its unfair but if you do it 1 time in the whole match then nothings wrong

[ILuvBillVal]

i have no problem with it because its easy to counter and it depends how much times the player does it

Serve+Short Slice is the most difficult thing to counter and the easiest thing to pull off

in that case its unfair but if you do it 1 time in the whole match then nothings wrong

Firstly, thanks for making my name stand out like that. It looks fantastic.

Secondly, you're right. But this is a total "World Tour" tactic, and sadly, I've played a few guys on ITST that employ this tactic. I just say, "save it for world tour." There are some people who honestly don't know they're doing something wrong though, they just know it works. So it never hurts to bring it to someone's attention.

[tonedawg1]

Nah, its fine if Marlon wants to bring it to the forum, I have no problem with that. All our PM exchanges were respectful of each other and I assume we can keep it this way on the forum.


We do have great matches and rallies, a lot. But, when you are down a break point on your serve - you do one of the following, wide serve, followed by a risk short slice to the opposite corner...sometime it is a mid court risk slice. If I manage to get to these balls, you then employ drop shots.....many....many of them. After serve as well.




One more thing that you do, is step over the line on returns. Not before but after return. You stand so close to the line that after you pull of a risk return you end up stepping over the line. Its not a biggie....but yet another annoyance.

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Double not truth.

First, i have never hit a risk slice to opposite corner after serve on bp.Not truth.

On one side i try to hit cross court forehand, and the other i hit a backhand return shot.

Second, i dont walk on baseline on return, and above all in this match we played i was 2 or 3 meters behind him, as i suggest me previously.

I think im really good player and you too.I hit cross court quality like you.Shots with no pace,who s caracteristic of real tennis, and risk shots.

I dont understand because on this points you show, its not true.Simply.

lol 3 meters thats 9 feet lololol i stand just a meter or 2 behind baseline only three if i get paranoid you play fair just play the way you want. we "really' cant force u to change just play the way u want dont let ppl influence you and make you feel like crap cuz then ull end up giving them free wins ive seen it b4

[djarvik]

Marlon, you may not realize you do it, but you do. Its your get out of trouble ticket. You are not doing it every time, but when you are in trouble....you will short slice. To me, it is somehow even worse. If you constantly do it, then I can at least get used to it.....but you do it selectively.

Anyway, just to say "not truth" is the easiest thing.

As for drop-shots......I don't know, maybe its me....but 2-3 at each service game is a bit much. Not cheesy, but certainly wouldn't encourage "more".

Marlon, you generally like to risk slice, setup of the shot for a winner.....I really don't care, but to say you don't do it and I am not saying the truth is wrong.

I never said you are a bad player or lack variety.....problem is, that 50% of that verity comes from overusing drop shots and risk slices....as well as wide serves.

Anyway, you wanted opinions - you got them. But please, don't say "its not truth". Its not a way out.


As for crossing, stepping, licking the line on returns......some stroke animations push your player forward. If you choose these, simply compensate by standing an extra half a step back. That's all. This way you will not cross or step on the line while returning and be withing the rule of being BEHIND the line during the return.

[marlonbrando91]

Marlon, you may not realize you do it, but you do. Its your get out of trouble ticket. You are not doing it every time, but when you are in trouble....you will short slice. To me, it is somehow even worse. If you constantly do it, then I can at least get used to it.....but you do it selectively.

Anyway, just to say "not truth" is the easiest thing.

As for drop-shots......I don't know, maybe its me....but 2-3 at each service game is a bit much. Not cheesy, but certainly wouldn't encourage "more".

Marlon, you generally like to risk slice, setup of the shot for a winner.....I really don't care, but to say you don't do it and I am not saying the truth is wrong.

I never said you are a bad player or lack variety.....problem is, that 50% of that verity comes from overusing drop shots and risk slices....as well as wide serves.

Anyway, you wanted opinions - you got them. But please, don't say "its not truth". Its not a way out.


As for crossing, stepping, licking the line on returns......some stroke animations push your player forward. If you choose these, simply compensate by standing an extra half a step back. That's all. This way you will not cross or step on the line while returning and be withing the rule of being BEHIND the line during the return.

OK.

We have respect each other its suffisant.

I never hit in my life a double trigger slice.

I hope we will can enjoy in our miami match quarter.

See u man.

[djarvik]

OK Marlon, lets leave this at that.

Hope we have a good match in QF.

[RV_Cobra11]

ha, im going to win so it doesn't matter

[SoundfSilence]

marlon

You are a great player, everyone here who has played you will know that. Also you are always nice, friendly and very respectful. Definately a good addition to ITST.

My view on this is, you hit the dropshot so well and so consistently that it can be seen to look cheesy.. especially if used consecutively after serve (the effect is the same as a short risk slice after serve, but more difficult to execute). There is no rule against this, and I wouldn't say it's cheesy, but to do it often in a match just looks silly (and not fun to play against).

Anyway bud, play the style you like to play and have fun with. The community's here for feedback, hopefully this feedback helps make everyone have a better TS3 experience. I don't think djarvik meant any bad feelings.. I agree with him about Serve then Dropshot, excessive use is not fun. Just my opinion bud.

PS

ovhij - The Serve, then Short Slice is the cheesiest thing possible within our ITST rules. No, it is not ok if it is use once in match! (Especially, on crucial breakpoint etc). I'm your coach, you gotta listen to me (I take credit for the big wins ovhij's been getting )

[tonedawg1]

marlon

You are a great player, everyone here who has played you will know that. Also you are always nice, friendly and very respectful. Definately a good addition to ITST.

My view on this is, you hit the dropshot so well and so consistently that it can be seen to look cheesy.. especially if used consecutively after serve (the effect is the same as a short risk slice after serve, but more difficult to execute). There is no rule against this, and I wouldn't say it's cheesy, but to do it often in a match just looks silly (and not fun to play against).

Anyway bud, play the style you like to play and have fun with. The community's here for feedback, hopefully this feedback helps make everyone have a better TS3 experience. I don't think djarvik meant any bad feelings.. I agree with him about Serve then Dropshot, excessive use is not fun. Just my opinion bud.

PS

ovhij - The Serve, then Short Slice is the cheesiest thing possible within our ITST rules. No, it is not ok if it is use once in match! (Especially, on crucial breakpoint etc). I'm your coach, you gotta listen to me (I take credit for the big wins ovhij's been getting )

agreed

[marlonbrando91]

marlon


My view on this is, you hit the dropshot so well and so consistently that it can be seen to look cheesy.. especially if used consecutively after serve (the effect is the same as a short risk slice after serve, but more difficult to execute). There is no rule against this, and I wouldn't say it's cheesy, but to do it often in a match just looks silly (and not fun to play against).

I agree with him about Serve then Dropshot, excessive use is not fun. Just my opinion bud.

I'm your coach, you gotta listen to me (I take credit for the big wins ovhij's been getting )

HI, again ys i use well the dropshots it can be frustrating.

Bud god, i NEVER uses and above all vs djarvik serve and just after dropshots.

Never used consecutively after serve.I use him like a change of pace and surprise.

I use too well this shot, its my fault.

[ILuvBillVal]

I use him like a change of pace and surprise.

Wow, you dirty little man.

[Otlichno]

I occasionally step over the lines by accident, but Djarvik told me about it and now I stand behind it more. I don't see how it changes anything though, I actually get more return winners behind the baseline than I do when I return on the baseline. But as for overusing the dropshot I'm guilty of that too. I generally don't get winners off it but it gives me a target to hit a nice passing shot (one of my favourite shots, though I'm not as good as coke ), MarlonBrando you aren't overly cheesy I just think on big points you change, you dropshot and slice allot more than usual and it gets annoying, I know it's difficult not to begin doing that, even I have a tendency to go all wide serve on break points but I've begun to change that and hit my serve with more variety.