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Darth Luisito CHEESY

Postby RAE1980 » Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:46

Sorry i think its time to say my Opinion

I think every man know that i play fair, ok i win or i loose.
And i give to, i say my opinion when i am not happy with the
gamestyle after the match.

I have no problems with the most players, NO!!! many players are mates, Baghdad, Mack, Amazing Zizou, Synesthesia, Specialist, Epox and and and.....

but what i have see today, thats a Joke, when more players so play, than i go absolutley sure from ITST!!! A Cheesy Joke.

I WAS NEVER SO SOUR (sorry for this)

Darth Luisito a man play in RED not in WHITE cool for Wimbledon

Ok we play..... i see he s serve is EVER outside or Inside....i have NO Chance to play the ball. When i have a chance to beat the ball, than he beat with RT (everytime) the Ball down, no stops no volleys, no spins, no everytime RT LONG....LOL i am little Tennis fan, that is no Tennis, that is i kill the Ball :roll:

Ok i have me say... my Serve can he not read, what is? He play ALL Returns with half high returns (no Lob, but almost)....ALL, i know that is cheesy style, he goes in position and i can not right beat the ball.

I am not sure, but i think over a retirement, than player as Darth Luisitio make s the game broken...

All other players know it, that i can fight until the end. But he has won from the first minute with his cheesy style....

No Question it gives better player as me, many player ...Bagdhad or Amazing Zizou or Norberto, Illuvbillval and other guys, but i have a little Chance, but Darth plays with a fantastic no fun mentality...

And one think more... he plays 90 fore, and backhand, 90 power, 90 serve, COOL....Federer/Nadal robot mix...

You can think of me as you please, but i am for the nice play, not for the 5 second rallies....

An all host, i hope we make new rules in 90/40, for many players are so Player as Darth absolutley frustrating....

damm.......and my message on you Darth Luisitio, when i go from ITST than BECAUSE OF YOU Your style is no style, is no tennis, is a unfair game.......see Fedfan first round, he retired, and i hope Bagdad can my Opinion shared
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Postby fedfan » Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:57

I must admit I was tempted to ask for a walkover when he didn't play in white :lol:

I'm not gonna slag the guy off, 90-40 is what it is but after three games I had zero interest in our match. Everytime it was his service I flicked the TV over, came back and served, then flicked off again, it was just no fun whatsover I just wanted to get to a tiebreak and throw a dice.

When he broke me in the second I just threw the towel in. Maybe bad sportsmanship on my part but I've taken plenty of defeats on all tours fairly, but when the match does not even hold my interest I'm not willing to invest my time in it sorry.
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Postby Moralspain » Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:16

I´m gonna take this opportunity to clarify (some players have asked me about this) that not wearing white outfit is not reason to ask for a walkover against your rival, it's not a rule, we just encouraged people to wear white clothes, that's all.
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Postby Baghdad Baghdatis » Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:23

Rae, as you can guess I completely understand where you are coming from. Anyone who knows you & appreciates fair play topspin will not question your integrity for posting your post match analysis.

You are merely venting frustration and whilst a select few members may not agree the facts remain that this kind of crap needs to stop. Now I will hold my hands up and say I have a lot of respect for Rae, we grew up on ITST together so perhaps whilst I am a little bit bias I also know, as do others, that this replicates my previous thread.

Now I know that the reality is cheesy play is hard to restrict and players who are new or do not visit the forums may not even know or care about playing style, its horses for courses as my friend once told me. However, this does not mean that players should hold back from "letting off steam".

Rae, I know you are a fighter, you always will be. You came back from 0-6 down against me in our legendary ITST SIM finals rubber match and have just posted an impressive win in 5 sets against the Specialist after being 0-6 down again!!

My only suggestion is this:

Management - you may not like the idea of this but perhaps a "Sticky" forum thread could be created to allow people to off load and highlight peoples opinions of unsportsmanship. This would save the number of posts regarding unhappy post match reports. It could also highlight trends of what players think are cheesy with the possibility of some kind of enforcement. I know it would not create a loving environment and members names might be thrown around but members could refrain from quoting player names if so (although I know sometimes its obvious if you just go on the ITST scoreboard) - the reality is that there will always be posts of this sort due to human nature toppled with competitive gaming. Only my thoughts.

Rae I am disappointed we are now not meeting in MS Wimby. I will take out the trash in your honour :twisted:
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Postby RAE1980 » Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:50

Clear i am out of the 90-40 tournament. Clear Darth has won,
that is not my problem, my problem is Darth has no style and play
not fair!!! Cheesy 100%

In the last time i have see a really bad Development in ITST...
not the Hosts, the Host s make a strong job and work hard.

No it give s player with talent and without talent. Without talent is
than RT and Outwide serve every time....

Darth Luisito is in my opinion a player with absolutley no talent.
His talent is to win at any price.....and that is very said. The
Game play s for he no matter...

See me, i can win over Bagdad in Sim most time not, but
i love the fair play vs him, that is why play top spin, clear i will
win but not at any price.

Thank you Bagdad, i have see your strong game vs Niten Doraku
i was suprised cause your setup, but you has me show what you
really can...... :wink:

But when you play vs Darth Luisito, that is absolutley frustrated
i swear, make s no fun and you think: WHY I HAVE PLAY AND WON
VS NITEN DORAKU, FOR WHAT?


Actually i think, when i play vs Darth in the future, than i can give up,
than makes me the game no fun and i can never win, never...so i can
never win a tournament FAIR when he plays!!!

Actually i think on a retirement, Retirement 90-40 or all, and
at the moment my heart bleeds....


I have speak with many players from the past, the most players has leave itst cause ONLY RT.......WHY GUYS is the Game, the fun less important as the victory???

I have never see in Real a Federer or Nadal with a

Serve constant 230 km/h
Outwide serve every time
Balls see table tennis

The Question goe s on the RT guys...;-)

You love tennis than play volley, stops, various genial balls, topspin, backspin, slice....
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Postby Baghdad Baghdatis » Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:09

I completely understand - my 3 hates are:

- risking 100% of all shots RT + LT or RT
- slice out wide serve 100% of the time
- over used drop shots (e.g. 4 times a game)

I think I can support my original point with this - I will not resort or lower myself to tactics that are abused and used so much as to create an unfair advantage.

Rae, take this Darth Luisto for an example (p.s. I have played him once before). I could employ the following tactics to create an advantage:

- Deep out-wide 'kick serve' or acute out-wide 'flat serve' every point
- Follow up serve (if he reaches them) with...
A) Cross court risk slice
B) Cross court A+ LT+RT or just A
- I could then hold the triggers for every shot (because believe you me I am deadly with triggers)
- mixing up with loads and loads of short risk slice if the ball EVER reach a rally from either of us.

So for anyone who mumbles out "its just a video game and its about winning" or "its his style and you should accept it" should give their head a wobble :lol: If I came out with the above tactics every decent folk in here would say "Baghdad, you are one cheesy mofo"

I know this may sound a bit outrageous, and whilst I am fully aware this will never happen I will say it out loud because it is what I would do if I was the chairman of this site...

...Quite simply, I would look, listen & then as the chairman I would quite simply discard of the members who play with such horrid style. For every new member there would be an "induction pack" with rules and regulations and fair play high on the agenda. If players complained about the same player on more than say 3 occasions, after issuing yellow cards I would sit in my big chiefs chair and issue the red - your fired and account closed :lol: :idea

Because lets face it, at the end of the day no one would miss this style of play, not even the minority who shield the people who do it. They will resort back to the world tour and be more than content. Then, there would be no new joiners saying "I thought this was supposed to be a realistic site but its no different to the world tour". It would make the site even better than it already is.

If people are banned for abusing people via PM's, if people are banned for using mutliple accounts then heck yeah people should be flushed down the shiney toilet for abusing the concept of ITST...

...I know I know its never going to happen because its too hard to control and some people don't care but a guy can dream :wink:
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Postby picachu211 » Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:27

OMG, I hope Rocketsfall does not see this thread, I am so getting disqualified for wearing red knickers under my white dress.
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Postby picachu211 » Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:29

Back on topic, isn't this guy from WT?
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Postby picachu211 » Mon, 28 Jun 2010 00:41

Aww, so sweet!
I see Baghdad took revenge for you. 8)
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Postby Mack2300 » Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:51

First of all, I have to say I have no experience playing Darth Luisitio so I can't comment directly on this but I think at this stage we all know who are the fun and fair players to play against. Unfortunately, you are also going to get those who just want to win at all costs and so will play a boring, "cheesy" game in order to do so.
My advice would be just to play those who you enjoy playing and ignore the cheesers. That would send out a strong message if enough people were refusing to play these guys
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Postby Mystical Lion » Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:52

i have played against him in womans tournament and there was all fine!

his serve was fantastic and his shots with rt/lt were not available! he is a good player!
it was not a nice game but all after the rules and i think not cheesy!

Darth Luisito a man play in RED not in WHITE cool for Wimbledon

that is a joke, right? :roll:

Ok we play..... i see he s serve is EVER outside or Inside....i have NO Chance to play the ball. When i have a chance to beat the ball, than he beat with RT (everytime) the Ball down, no stops no volleys, no spins, no everytime RT LONG....LOL i am little Tennis fan, that is no Tennis, that is i kill the Ball


i dont understand the problem! what exactly is cheesy in his game?
his serve, his rt/lt shots?
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Postby Rocketsfall » Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:45

picachu211 wrote:OMG, I hope Rocketsfall does not see this thread, I am so getting disqualified for wearing red knickers under my white dress.


Euhm... that was a men's match we played... where you were wearing a black t-shirt! :twisted: 8)
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Postby Hamburgerboy27 » Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:52

RAE1980 wrote:In the last time i have see a really bad Development in ITST...
not the Hosts, the Host s make a strong job and work hard.



In the last time?I have see this for 7-8 Months by ITST :lol:
As i come too ITST have i think:Wow,EVERY Player have a seperate Style...but some Months later have i see by the most gamer only the some Risk style.
I have feel some weeks the some who you or Bagdad(By another Threads) and have me irritated about this and some Players because i have lose my fun here and by the Game TS3.

In the first time have i think:Some Players or many Players play very cheesy here and want only win,without little Tennis and Fun by this Game or with a 40-90 Setup(Sorry but is for me a Noob Setup for the WT or for BEGINNER)but later have i think:
Here give MANY various Peoples with several points of opinion and every Player have another performance from tennis and from this Game...Give Players the like 40+90Setup,Give Players the like Sim,another like play with or without Risk,give player the like only win and another types :wink:
For ITST is it impossible too find Rules too make all Players here lucky and i find who you ITST make a great job here and have good Rules.

Therefore was the retirement from ITST for me the best way thoug i just comming too the Top 10 and this was my great finish.

But i think when you have only with 1...2...or 3 Players probleme here give it no basic for you to resign from ITST about 2-3 Players when you have fun with 20 or 30 another Player here...and i think it were pity for some gamer here and for ITST when you to resign...but is your decision :wink:

I think a Thread about another Gamer is NEVER good...i have do the same earlier but i know this is a default and was not fair and good from me...BECAUSE my opponent have not to offend the ITST Rules ony in MY Rules :lol: :wink:
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Postby RAE1980 » Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:16

i am really happy Bagdad for your victory, GL the next rounds...;-)
I did not think that you win so loose...wow but congrats.

Last Year i was unhappy in one game with Aceusam, cause
Topspin serve all-time, i give to, that was a fault from me to
think he play cheesy. I have him say sorry last year.

But i have a problem with Darth Luisito that he say to me,
that he play with RT Return, no i know what RT Return is,
and a RT Return is not SLOW, and half-high,
most time i have think he push the Y Button...

He lies on me, i forget this not...

Red or White Clothing is not my problem :lol: But i have hope
every player has the white Clothing in wimbledon not more ;-)

I have no problem to loose a game if anyone thinks the. The last
WS Game vs Checker i have loose 4-6 4-6 and that was ok, more
as ok, he was the clear better player on this day and deserve the
victory as an example.

My Greatest problem in the last six months is, many players, plays
the style from Norberto, Norberto is very good with his style and i
have absolutley no problems with him. Darth Luisitio have me say,
he play as Norberto... Great!!! When every man play as Norberto,
than we have a draft Lottery GAME, sorry but i play not Topspin to Copy
Norberto.....or other players

In Real give it no 50 Federer s or? However, I find ridiculous.

Where a the volley player as Rob ITST....??? Where are other player
as Bagdad??? No nobody copy these guys and why??? Help me i can loose a game :roll:

Do I just say the opinion. The opinion from many others here...

[b]Here a List, what i miss, extreme:

- Where a all good players? (Anteros, Picachu, Xohrum, Retos, Joe-Six-Toe, Hamburger Boy, GOA MASTER MDMA, Darkstyle 86, setheleh, Ghost LD and many other players, fair player as Teach?
and the many great other guys....

- Why goes many players out from here? I think is not only, the game
is old, NEVER guys!!! The most player were NO RT-Player.[/b] For me is Anteros a hero, he beat me in Friendly matches with Bishop a bad Power Player, that is Talent!!!

- Fair Play, a great Point for me .....Fair Play Guys is --->

-PUNCTUAL
-REPLAYS Sometimes, i am happy to se a Replay of me other of my opponent when he play a fantastic cool Point (Thx on Bagdad and Synesthesia, that is fair Play).
-Game without RT or Little RT for realistic Tennis, and not Point, Fault, Point, Fault and and and, when i will play Flipper, than i need no Topspin.
- I miss the different SERVE...For many player give s actually only Outwide-Serve. Sometimes i think i play vs the same player??? Outwide-Serve is ok, a Tactic, but not ever and ever...I bring sometimes a Outwide-Serve back, but what is with a Newcomer on ITST? When he must play with a Outwide-Serve Opponent than goes he the next day of ITST....Is frustrated for him, he is new and has no chance...

In my Eyes it give only 2 Ways for many more Realistic Tennis.

Way one, the bad way:

ALLTIME RT PLAYER PLAY 90-40 and no SIM
SIM PLAYER ONLY SIM AND NO 90-40 see Bagdad or Djarvik

or Way two:

RT AND OUTSIDE SERVE IS NOT DANGER WHEN WE PLAY with Power under 80 overall, than comes the FUN back in the game, i am sure!!! See sim......A 80-40 Tour!!!

Ps.: I fight not for me, i fight for ALL, For Real Topspin, REAL TENNIS and Bagdad i dream with you the real tennis in ITST...WE NEED FUN
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Postby RAE1980 » Mon, 28 Jun 2010 07:20

Hamburgerboy27 wrote:
RAE1980 wrote:In the last time i have see a really bad Development in ITST...
not the Hosts, the Host s make a strong job and work hard.



In the last time?I have see this for 7-8 Months by ITST :lol:
As i come too ITST have i think:Wow,EVERY Player have a seperate Style...but some Months later have i see by the most gamer only the some Risk style.


Thx that is that what i mean with many player goes cause RT RISK SHOT Player. Hamburger Boy was a talent Player, he has me bring to ITST and was a little Mentor :wink:

I have a problem with some people, but i say No Name

Darth is the only man, where i say his name, than yesterday was the baddest Gameplay where i have play with a Opponent in ITST and World Tour (and i have over 1000 Matches played), and that makes me sour...
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