Your opinion about risk slice return inside the baseline?

[Digitalboyy]

having a good serve or even a powerful shot means nothing to the guys in the top 10 men and women who use risk shots like its second nature

There are ways to make regular risk returns extremely difficult, especially if you have a high serve stat. I can show you how if you like.

please show me how.....

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

Are you two guys having fun play the game like that?
The time for a set of real tennis match is at least 30 minutes, in the game it is probably 15 minutes. But I finished my match (two 3-game sets) in 5 minutes. There was no rally, which is the most interesting part of the game. For me, the idea that you can construct a point, move your opponent around, find an opening and hit a winner or force a error, thrills me.

thats the game.!You cant say its not fair to use possible ingame shoots-also where are the rallies by serve and volley player?and about playing time i think you forget the breaks in tennis ,than the time where is running between every serve(30-60 second every serve) - when you loose in 5 minutes?so maybe your opponent is better , you cant bring your serve home.and he breake you- thats all- for me is shure when you changed your serve early he cant return this way permanently!

[Rob ITST]

where are the rallies by serve and volley player?

Name one serve and volley player on TS3.



OK. Name two serve and volley players on TS3.

I don't like the constant hit or miss tactics that result in short points, but I agree with what Jaylove is always saying - it's not your opponent's job to make the game fun for you. Serve and volley is a real tactic, so is hitting a big serve followed by a put away with a powerful goundstroke. But really this isn't about rallies, realism, or over powered characters. This is a question as to whether this return is cheesy or fair.

[Rob ITST]

having a good serve or even a powerful shot means nothing to the guys in the top 10 men and women who use risk shots like its second nature

There are ways to make regular risk returns extremely difficult, especially if you have a high serve stat. I can show you how if you like.

please show me how.....

Here's a hint:

With the buttons and the stick, there are over 10 different serves. With both service boxes, there are over 10 different spots you can aim to. That means there are over 100 different combinations you can hit to your opponent. Use them all.

[madsitesPT]

I had a few of those smart "players" that go into the baseline in the last few days, and in the beggining i served hard and lost the point anyway, because the return was so fast, i haven´t got time to release the button :S.
So, after thinking in throw the pad through the window and quit playing, i started to serve real slow, and voilá, most of the times, the cheesy slice return, is a winner for me
Best regards

[s o l i d N i c]

I notice that no one here is really concerned about this issue.
Some people said they had no problem with it, I think that's because you have not really seen anyone who is good at it.
This return can totally throw your rhythm off, and the ball comes back before you even finish your serving. You cannot risk because it would definitely be out or into the net. You cannot use normal shots because the ball is so low and so close to the net, it would be a sitter for your opponent.
I have no problem with all kinds of unrealistic setups, or risk shots (returns). At least you have the chance to work the points. But with this return you are screwed from the get go.
I met some people in our community in world tour and they played like this. I hope that they won't play like this in any ITST tournaments.
I am really not a whiner. Play with some of these guys and you will know what I am talking about.

I tried not to get into this discussion because I get accused of being a whiner or a sore loser.

I personally think that these slice returns from inside the baseline is cheesy. I also think that serving out wide becomes cheesy too (most people will start serving wide when they get behind).

I try to find ways to deal with this shots...I can sometimes "get lucky" and take a few risky returns when someone is serving out wide constantly....but the slice returns is too much sometimes.

anyway - hopefully there will be a game where you can turn off "power" shots or "arcade" shots.

cheers,
N i c

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

where are the rallies by serve and volley player?

Name one serve and volley player on TS3.



OK. Name two serve and volley players on TS3.
.

an unnamed amercican-pc fitness .and some no itst players(FORGET NAME).he do it all well play serve volley. there is nothing negative to say about this.so in real . a serve + power playa i think also okay.!! and a playa where have no game and can read game and can than answeres shoot .to win,same okay.



and FOR All 100 power haters i will say, its easy to answer.use 1 rt a risk so you bring power back and you can start your own game so,when you have a game..........??

[SSkanner]

SOMEONE SAID I DO CHEESY PLAY

I don't know that i have to respect rules in NON ITST TOURNAMENTS or games.
I have to remember you that i am inscribed to ITST but i have NEVERand i say NEVER played in a tournament.

So if i have done this 'cheesy' play i have never done it in your
tournament.

I readed in the forum about this 'cheesy' game, and about the new rules
about the max 90 in attribute.


Now i have learned (from others) to serve from angles and to return services fast and
angled.

Now i ask you, is not 'cheesy' game serve the balls (100%) at max speed on the lines inside or outside depend where who return is placed? And is not cheese game play 100% risk shots without risks?.


Cheesy game for me maybe:
1) Serve from angles ( what i have done NON IN ITST MATCH)
2) Return from inside the lines ( what i have done NON IN ITST MATCH)
3) PLAY ALL THE SERVICES (around 100%) ON THE CORNERS OF THE INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL LINES AT 100% SPEED. (NEVER DONE)
4) PLAY ALL THE BALLS WITH RISKS SHOTS WITHOUT TAKE RISKS. (NEVER DONE)

Regards, Skanner

[Apathetically]

Anyone with youtube or any type of video links to this type of risk slice return? I just need to see it properly first to confirm my suspicions.