the cheesy returns

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Should the near service line returns be banned?

Poll ended at Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:30

No i like to use them myself and i like cheese
2
14%
Would be great if we could serve drop shots, haha
3
21%
i can counter it, i tell you how - and indeed u should tell!
0
No votes
i can counter it, i tell you how - and indeed u should tell!
0
No votes
i get so upset by these returns i scream until i get my medicine
9
64%
 
Total votes : 14

Postby picachu211 » Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:13

Mack2300 wrote:Unfortunately, cheese play is a big feature of ITST, just looks at some of the top ranked players' stats. We just have to put up with it.


I know you think a top player should not have a 30 in stamina, but that is how it is. Make them move, hit several winners in a row to win a point...
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Postby Mack2300 » Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:35

picachu211 wrote:
Mack2300 wrote:Unfortunately, cheese play is a big feature of ITST, just looks at some of the top ranked players' stats. We just have to put up with it.


I know you think a top player should not have a 30 in stamina, but that is how it is. Make them move, hit several winners in a row to win a point...


Fair enough. I guess I don't have much choice but to create a 30(40) stamina power player myself to just try and compete with these guys.
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Postby Mack2300 » Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:38

Rob ITST wrote:
Mack2300 wrote:Unfortunately, cheese play is a big feature of ITST, just looks at some of the top ranked players' stats. We just have to put up with it.


You're 100% wrong there. We don't allow cheesy play. The 40/90 rule starts at the US Open, and if someone uses cheesy tactics, you should report it to the host.

Eventhough I think the 40/90 rule is better for the game, personally I don't consider the 100 power/fh/bh characters cheesy. There's noting unfair about it, it's just an easier way to play.


I was just referring more or less specifically to the low stamina issue but if that isn't considered cheesy than that is fine and I accept that.

But yeah I apologize for that comment. I didn't quite mean it to sound like that. I'm just frustrated with my poor ITST form as ever since I reached the first warm-up final, I've done nothing since.
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Postby Rob ITST » Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:48

Mack2300 wrote: I guess I don't have much choice but to create a 30(40) stamina power player myself to just try and compete with these guys.


You don't have to do that. As long as you can hold serve consistently, you can focus on making them run them like crazy. It may not be a huge difference, but they're shots get weaker, they start to move slower, and it gets harder for them to hit risk shots.

I try to be cruel when I play a low stamina guy. Get them way off the court, then hit a hard shot up the middle where thay can just barely reach it. You get a weak reply, and you can move them way off the court again. If I can get the upperhand in a point when they're serving, I don't even try to win it; I juat make it last as long as possible.

I give them 2 choices: They can run all over the court, or they can let me hit easy winners.

Stamina is also one of the reasons I don't consider the wide slice to be cheesy. It's a great way to get them off the court so you can start pulling them side to side.

I can see why someone would consider the low stamina characters cheesy. They're trying to find the easiest way to win. But it is a weakness and there are ways to make them pay for it.
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